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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:21 BST (UK) »
My apologies for causing some of the confusion - "smacked wrists" - it was I who initially said RPD62.

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:26 BST (UK) »
My apologies for causing some of the confusion - "smacked wrists" - it was I who initially said RPD62.

 :'( :'( :'(

Don't worry about it - there are plenty of earlier references to RDP62 in the thread.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
Going back to my quandary, in 1914 how many Churches called themselves the Parish Church in the Parish of St Andrews Leeds do we know this yet?

One.

At least, that is normally the case. Very exceptionally where there's an ancient church and a newer one in the same parish, both may be given the status of parish church, but the usual situation is one parish = one parish church. Any other churches in the parish would be described as a chapel of ease, district church or daughter church.

In this case, the parish of St Andrew's was created out of St George's parish in 1845. It would be highly unusual, if not unprecedented, for a parish created at that date to have more than one parish church in it.

In this case though it seems there are/were two:

St Georges Church, Great George Street
St Andrews Church, Cavendish Street

…?

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:44 BST (UK) »
It seems I am no further forward.

The 1914 Wedding could have taken place at:

Leeds St Andrew
Leeds St Faith
Leeds St George
Leeds St Philip


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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 11 October 18 16:51 BST (UK) »
I don't understand your confusion!

Have you seen the image of the marriage entry?  What does it say in regard to the location of the marriage?  If it says "St Andrew" then that is where the marriage took place.  If it says "St George" then that is where the marriage took place.

If you could give us one of the names (assuming that they are no longer alive) then we can look for the marriage and confirm the location.

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 11 October 18 17:06 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure that St Faith is actually a church or parish - it says St Faith's Home!!! 

St Philip - 1914 marriages - Reference starts P62/21/5

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 11 October 18 17:22 BST (UK) »
I don't understand your confusion!

Have you seen the image of the marriage entry?  What does it say in regard to the location of the marriage?  If it says "St Andrew" then that is where the marriage took place.  If it says "St George" then that is where the marriage took place.

If you could give us one of the names (assuming that they are no longer alive) then we can look for the marriage and confirm the location.

David Beevers and Hannah Garnett

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 11 October 18 17:24 BST (UK) »
Going back to my quandary, in 1914 how many Churches called themselves the Parish Church in the Parish of St Andrews Leeds do we know this yet?

One.....

In this case though it seems there are/were two:

St Georges Church, Great George Street
St Andrews Church, Cavendish Street

…?

Did you read what I wrote a couple of days ago:
It seems that the WYAS reference RDP62 relates to Leeds St George and newer parishes that were created out of it.....

The National Index of Parish Registers (book) notes that St Andrew, Cavendish Street was a parish created in 1844 from Leeds St George, with which it was reunited in 1959. So that looks like the one you want. St Andrew's church had been demolished by 1966.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 11 October 18 17:32 BST (UK) »
Bride's address is Darlington Street.

See this map - it's just opposite St Andrew's Church. (Find it by locating Wellington Foundry near the bottom edge, then it's a short distance to the north.)

https://maps.nls.uk/view/125642401
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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