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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
I've just looked at a random image from St Andrews Leeds as only one appeared in the parish drop down box

Under the 2 marriages on that image is a reference P62/20/*

Take a peek here, page 28

http://www.wyjs.org.uk/media/69612/collection-guide-1-parish-registers.pdf

There's more in their catalogue under RDP62 as aqrthuruk has posted

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 17:23 BST (UK) »
The address/es that the couple give may be helpful if they include street names, since one or both will be living in the parish where they married. Which St Andrew's is nearest?
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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
I did think it was the demolished Cavendish Street, but I'm still confused -

Are you saying every Leeds wedding that states 'Parish Church in the Parish of S Andrews in the County of Leeds' is Cavendish Street also?

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 18:04 BST (UK) »
no, you have to look at the source of the image, ancestry are notorious for getting things wrong.

However, each image should have a source code somewhere, as does each transcription.

It's a case of cross referencing.

Another example for confusion in my next of the woods - London.

Ancestry has lumped together St Pancras Old Church with St Pancras New church.

It's only when you look at the dates of the entries, you work out which one is which.
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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 19:20 BST (UK) »
Are you saying every Leeds wedding that states 'Parish Church in the Parish of S Andrews in the County of Leeds' is Cavendish Street also?

As Dawn says, you'd need to check the reference number shown at Ancestry against the WYAS catalogue or pdf list of registers, or use the Yorkshire BMD method I suggested, to be absolutely certain.

On the face of it, though, "St Andrew's Leeds" (etc) would appear to mean the one in Cavendish Street. If you look for other St Andrew's churches in the WYAS list or the Yorkshire BMD coverage, you'll see that their names include the suburbs they are in - Stanningley/Rodley and Stourton.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 07:00 BST (UK) »
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 08:18 BST (UK) »
Hello

Leeds Indexers has this from Kelly's 1893 Directory of Leeds ...
http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/Churches/101-125/101_20St_20Andrews_20Leeds.html
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St. Andrew's is an ecclesiastical parish, formed Dec. 6 1844, out of that of St George, but a portion of it has since been appropriated to form the parish of St. Simon. The church, situated in Cavendish Street, and errected by subscription in 1845 ...

Mark

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Google took me to Family Search and as I was signed in, gave me this list, Mark  ...

Leeds Christ-Church, Meadow-lane - 1824
Leeds Holy Trinity - 1721  - FHL has from 1813 only
Leeds All Saints, York Rd - 1850
Leeds All Souls Blackman Lane - 1880
Leeds St Andrew Cavendish  - 1845
Leeds St Barnabas, Brewery Field (see Holbeck)
Leeds St Clement (see Sheepscar)
Leeds St Hilda - 1881
Leeds St James - see Horsforth
Leeds St John the Evangelist - 1631
Leeds St Luke North Street - 1841
Leeds St Mary, Quarry Hill - 1826
Leeds St Matthew Camp Rd - 1847(see also Holbeck)
Leeds St Matthew Little London  (see Little London)
Leeds St Paul - 1793 - FHL has from 1813 only
Leeds St Peter* - 1572
Leeds St Philip - 1848
Leeds St Saviour - 1845
Leeds St Thomas - 1841
 

Here are Leeds' district churches which are all attached to, and lying within Leeds Parish (St Peter) boundaries:

Armley St Bartholomew - 1644
Beeston - 1720 - FHL has some for 1700's only
Bramley -
Burley - 1630
Burmantofts St Stephen - 1854 FHL has only 1881-1882
Buslingthorpe St Michael - 1854
Chapel-Allerton - 1724
Farnley - 1724-1813
Headingley - FHL has (supposedly) from ~1724-1812
Holbeck - FHL has from  1724-1812 only - see also St Matthews below
Holbeck St Barnabas Brewery Field - 1855
Holbeck St John - 1847
Holbeck St Luke - 1868
Holbeck St Matthew - 1813
Horsforth St James - 1847
Hunslet - 1686 - FHL has from 1764? only
Hunslet St Jude - 1853
Kirkstall - 1829
Little London St Matthews - 1854
Mount Pleasant St George - 1837
Seacroft - 1846
Sheepscar St Clement - 1866
Wortley St John the Baptist - 1787 - FHL has from 1851 only
Wortley-de-Leeds (New Wortley) - 1879
Woodhouse St Mark - 1826
Woodside - see Horsforth

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Re: Trouble with old marriage records and Leeds Parish Church's
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 October 18 13:51 BST (UK) »
It's so confusing. thanks for all helping so far guys.

If only the certificate said Name and Address of Church it would be so much easier!

Going back to my quandary, in 1914 how many Churches called themselves the Parish Church in the Parish of St Andrews Leeds do we know this yet?

Doesn't seem to be any website that clearly tells us all the Parish's of Leeds and their connecting Church's  ???