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Medal and record help
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
My great grandfather David joseph power was born in Waterford in 1901.
We have had several tales told to us about him being in the Irish army but I haven’t had much luck figuring out if it was true.
A cousin has recently come across a medal (emergency period) with na forsai cosanta on the reverse. We wondered if it may have been his.
Did they add service numbers and names on Irish medals? Can’t make out anything on our one.

I did a search again on ancestry and found a record for naval reserves number sb 2674 which did include his correct date of birth... but it’s british records isn’t it?

Am I just being silly thinking maybe he served with an Irish army or whatever before he came to England?

The only other hit under his name was on the national army census of Ireland in 1922 but I don’t know if it is him or just one of the many other powers born in Waterford. The age is roughly correct showing 22. Military place- the prison. Shows him as a corporal. Address is down for portlaw though which we have never come across yet either.
Next of kin is mother- mary power...
David’s mum was actually called Margaret but I have heard it being shortened to Mary a number of times on other posts...

Any help would be great as my cuz wants to get the medal restored to wear on his uniform but has to have proof it’s a family members
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Medal and record help
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 23:49 BST (UK) »
Emergency Service Medal 1939-1946 Defence Forces
Imperial War Museum [GB]
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30010453

Irish Medals for the Emergency Period (World War 2) and later years
Na Forsai Cosanta; The Defence Forces
theeasterrising.eu/240_WorldWarTwo/ww2.htm
This one has some pictures.

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Re: Medal and record help
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks yes that’s the site I found the info on for the medal... doesn’t tell me if they engraved them or anything though. Did try email but it bounced back too
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: Medal and record help
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 23:54 BST (UK) »
my cuz wants to get the medal restored to wear on his uniform but has to have proof it’s a family members

Be very cautious about restoring a medal.  A basic tidy-up and replacement of the ribbon (if needed) is OK, but don't attack it with metal polish.

Also - as regards protocol, family members' medals may be worn on the right breast, but never on the left (that is only for the person awarded the medal)

Apologies if you knew this alrerady, but it's best to be sure.

Philip
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Re: Medal and record help
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 00:01 BST (UK) »
The Military Archives are probably the best people to contact
http://www.militaryarchives.ie/index.php?id=688
http://www.militaryarchives.ie/en/contact-us

This site explains the different types
http://www.irishmedals.ie/WW2-Emergency-Medals.php

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Re: Medal and record help
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Phillip, I have no idea about the wearing of the medals to be honest but that was just what I was told by my cousin that he wanted to wear it if it was great grandads. I think he plans to renew the ribbon etc but think he is in contact with someone who deals properly with medals so I would presume he wouldn’t use something he shouldn’t..... I hope anyway

Sinann- yes I think I will email the na as it seems to be the most logical step if no one on here has any other info :-)
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)