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Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hello to everyone
I know it is such a long shot.....a friend has asked about her late mothers family as she knows nothing about them apart from her mother was born in Windsor Dec 1/4 1924 her name was Winifred...
I have found her birth info and and a marraige for her.
Her father was Frampton and the mother was Nutman

My friend is looking for any ancestors on her mothers side....
I just need someone to point me in the right direction as I am used to researching
All the best and thanks in anticipation
Yvonne
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:03 BST (UK) »
I think your friend needs to purchase her mother's birth certificate in order to confirm the details.  I suggest this as I cannot readily see a marriage entry in England and Wales for Frampton and Nutman - a possible reason is that Nutman is her birth surname, but not the surname she married under.  I have an instance where there is a marriage between Archbell and Ridehalgh, but the birth entry for their daughter shows a maiden name of Ashworth (Annie Ashworth initially married Thomas Ridehalgh who was killed in WW1).

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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:06 BST (UK) »
Is e the Birth Reg for Winifred and a Twin Brother I presume 1924. + a possible sibling 1929.

I cant see a Frampton/Nutman Marriage.
As children born post WW1, ? Nutman may been married before so Nutman her maiden name but married ? Frampton under another surname. 
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:07 BST (UK) »
Marriage mistranscribed;

So no previous Marriage;

Dec 1922 FRAMPTON Oswald L    _utman    Christchurch    2b   1589   
NUTMAN    Winifred M    Frampton    Christchurch    2b   1589
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:13 BST (UK) »
Cant post 1939 Register or 1911 Census deatils due to copyright but in 1901 in Hampshire we have;

Charles Frampton, 40, Confectioner/Shopkeeper
Ellen Frampton, 35
Eric Charles Wm Frampton, 6
Gwendoline Ellen Frampton, 4
Oswald Lou Frampton   2*******
Cyril Horace Frampton, 1
Martha Frampton, 46
Lilliam Maud Dron, 23
Eva Harris, 16
Florence Jane Isaac, 21

Birth Reg as OSWALD LEA Frampton 1809, Mothers maiden name LEA
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:16 BST (UK) »
1901 in Christchurch, Hampshire for Winifred;
Joseph Nulman, 38, Solicitors Clerk
Elizabeth Nulman, 31
Cyril J Nulman, 5
Winifred M Nulman, 3*****
John D Nulman, 1

NUTMAN, WINIFRED  MARY, Mothers mn GALTON****
GRO Reference: 1897  S Quarter in CHRISTCHURCH  Volume 02B  Page 639

I found all of this by starting with looking for 1929 Child on 1939 register.

Trish :)
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:32 BST (UK) »
Marriage;
6 Nov 1887
Marriage Place:   Holy Trinity, Worcester, Worcester, England
Charles FRAMPTON, Age: 27, c 1860, Father WILLIAM Frampton
Ellen LEA, Age; 21 c 1866, Father JAMES Lea
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 11:37 BST (UK) »
I've submitted a correction to FreeBMD for Nutman.  :)  Ancestry have mis-transcribed Oswald as Cswald  :)
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Re: Looking for Frampton /Nutman Berkshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 12:20 BST (UK) »
Joseph Nutman and Elizabeth Ellen Galton married in Christchurch Registration District June quarter 1895.

Southern Echo - 26 April 1895

April 24th at The Priory Church, Christchurch by the Rev. I H Bush, Joseph Nutman of Stanpit to Nellie, daughter of Mr H C Galton of West End House.

Western Chronicle - 3 May 1895

April 24th at The Prior Church, Christchurch, Joseph Nutman son of the late S Nutman of Lyme Regis to Nellie, daughter of H C Galton of Christchurch.

There is also an article in the Christchurch Times of 25 April 1896 related to Mr William John Nutman - master of the steamship Aidar, brother of Joseph Nutman - who was awarded the Albert Medal of the first class for heroism and bravery in a shipping disaster. 

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY