Missing the obvious or not?

[Horsley2016]

Wow!  I need a drink to assimilate all this info. Thank you again for everyone's time and efforts. It is really amazing to be offered so much help in the puzzle of the James Kennedy's!

So can we assume, so far we have:

James Kennedy (b circa 1851) married one Mary SMITH in 1870 and had sons John (1874) and James (1876)

Then with perhaps something happening to his wife, he remarried in 1878 Ellen MCGR(E)ADY and they go on to have John (1877 - a year before their marriage though?) Daniel, Catherine, Stephen and Peter?

Thank you! 
Mx

[Horsley2016]

James Kennedy married Ellen McGrady at St Alban's on 10 June 1878 - so perhaps not his first wife

This is becoming an interesting line!

[wivenhoe]

At my reply#43 I have edited -

Census 1911, at 15 Dryen St (same as Daniel KENNEDY with the niece and nephew) is James KENNEDY, wife Mary and three sons. Also, Peter KENNEDY, 22 years, boarder, all born Liverpool.

to be -
Census 1911, at 15 Dryen St (same Street as Daniel KENNEDY with the niece and nephew) is
......... John........... KENNEDY, wife Mary and three sons. Also, Peter KENNEDY, 22 years, boarder, all born Liverpool.

[candrjm]

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So can we assume, so far we have:

James Kennedy (b circa 1851) married one Mary SMITH in 1870 and had sons John (1874) and James (1876)

Then with perhaps something happening to his wife, he remarried in 1878 Ellen MCGR(E)ADY and they go on to have John (1877 - a year before their marriage though?) Daniel, Catherine, Stephen and Peter?

Not if this is Mary (nee Smith) and James Kennedy in the 1881 census which I posted earlier:


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-M86Q


Possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1874

Kennedy    James         Liverpool    8b   453   
Smith    Mary Ann         Liverpool    8b   453


Childrens birth registrations:

KENNEDY, JAMES        SMITH     
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 6

KENNEDY, CHARLES        SMITH     
GRO Reference: 1878  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 17

KENNEDY, WILLIAM        SMITH     
GRO Reference: 1880  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 57



The James Kennedy son of James and Ellen in this list was born in 1878

Census 1911, at 15 Dryen St (same as Daniel KENNEDY with the niece and nephew) is James KENNEDY, wife Mary and three sons. Also, Peter KENNEDY, 22 years, boarder, all born Liverpool.


KENNEDY, John  mms.  MCGRADY     
1877  JQ  LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 28

KENNEDY, Daniel mms.   MCGREADY     
1882  JQ LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  Page 65

KENNEDY, Catherine Christina   MCGRADY     
1885  MQ LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 24

KENNEDY, Stephen  mms.    MCGRADY     
1886  SQ  LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 60   

KENNEDY, Peter    mms.   MCGRADY     
1888  SQ Liverpool  Vol 08b  pge 38

FreeBDM JQ 1878 Liverpool  Vol 8b pg410
KENNEDY James  m. Ellen McGRADY



perhaps your James Kennedy was a different one to the one who married Mary Smith and your James Jnr was a little younger than you thought


Edit: Sorry just noticed that's a marriage for James and Ellen in 1878 not a birth for a James

[ShaunJ]

Census 1911, at 15 Dryen St

I think that should read 18 Dryden Street.

[Horsley2016]

Census 1891 @ 39 Woodstock St
HESTON Edward      45y       b. Ireland
HESTON Ellen          53y       b. Ireland
HESTON Patrick       13y       b. Liverpool
HESTON Mary          11y       b. Liverpool

Census 1901  @ Penryhn St
KENNEDY John   23y  gas stoker    b. Liverpool
KENNEDY Mary   21y                     b. Liverpool
KENNEDY James  1y                      b. Liverpool
HESTON Ellen     57y  married charwoman   sister    b. Ireland.
(husband Edward is in the Liverpool Workhouse)


Census 1911, at 15 Dryen St (same Street as Daniel KENNEDY with the niece and nephew) is John KENNEDY, wife Mary and three sons. Also, Peter KENNEDY, 22 years, boarder, all born Liverpool.


KENNEDY, John  mms.  MCGRADY     
1877  JQ  LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 28

KENNEDY, Daniel mms.   MCGREADY     
1882  JQ LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  Page 65

KENNEDY, Catherine Christina   MCGRADY     
1885  MQ LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 24

KENNEDY, Stephen  mms.    MCGRADY     
1886  SQ  LIVERPOOL  Vol 08b  pg 60   

KENNEDY, Peter    mms.   MCGRADY     
1888  SQ Liverpool  Vol 08b  pge 38

FreeBDM JQ 1878 Liverpool  Vol 8b pg410
KENNEDY James  m. Ellen McGRADY

Just also noticed that James Kennedy (b1851 circa) was living in Woodstock Street when his son James marries Julia McCarthy in 1897...

[ShaunJ]

Just also noticed that James Kennedy (b1851 circa) was living in Woodstock Street when his son James marries Julia McCarthy in 1897...

No it was son James who lived at Woodstock Street. The marriage register does not record the father's address.

[Horsley2016]

Possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1874

Kennedy    James         Liverpool    8b   453   
Smith    Mary Ann         Liverpool    8b   453


That possible marriage record - I found one Kennedy Mary Smith Liverpool 8b 318 for 1870! Not sure where now! 

[candrjm]

do you mean this one!

Marriages Jun 1870 
Kennedy    Mary        Liverpool    8b   318    
Smith    Samuel         Liverpool    8b   318