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Offline M_ONeill

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 October 18 09:49 BST (UK) »
That's a great suggestion, Josey! I had no idea those records were available as PDFs now. I've sent off an order, will let you know what I get back.

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 October 18 09:57 BST (UK) »
Look forward to hearing....

I had a look at the newspaper archive but it seems Worcestershire papers start 1838. Can't see any likely entry.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 October 18 10:20 BST (UK) »
Hey all, first time poster to the military board!

I'm currently trying to explain a gap in the children of my 4x great grandparents, William Monk and Elizabeth Handley, of Rock Worcestershire. They marry on the 29th November 1798, in Rock, and then proceed to have a child every couple of years. Then there is a large gap between James Monk (baptised 16th April 1809) and Francis Monk (baptised 2nd July 1815). The couple then have two other children after that.


Are you relying on transcripts or have you browsed the actual register for Rock.   If you are using transcripts sourced from familysearch I have found instances in my trees where the transcribed records are not complete.
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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 October 18 10:35 BST (UK) »
I got the information from a lookup kindly done for me at The Hive library, Worcester 3-4 years ago. They were transcripts in the process of being done  by a local historical society.

Sadly I now live abroad, so seeing the registers in person isn't feasible and I don't believe images of them have been put online.

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 October 18 10:37 BST (UK) »
Your profile does not state where in the world you are located, it does help us when suggesting where to look for records.  The film for Rock may be available to view at a family history centre local to you.
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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 October 18 10:39 BST (UK) »
Your profile does not state where in the world you are located, it does help us when suggesting where to look for records.  The film for Rock may be available to view at a family history centre local to you.

Whoops, I'd forgotten that I needed to update that info now I'm overseas!

I'm currently living in Germany.

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 October 18 13:37 BST (UK) »
There may be a LDS family history centre near you that could get the film.  :-\  It is a long time since I visited these centres in the UK so don't know what the procedure is nowadays.
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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 15 October 18 17:04 BST (UK) »
Some googling reveals that the parish records exist on microfilm at the 'Worcestershire County Council History Centre'. I'll drop a lookup request in the Worcs. lookup forum when I'm back at my computer and have all the details to hand.

Besides that, I've been thinking about possible reasons for the gap, as well as military service:

  • The obvious: There's no children born between early 1809 and mid 1815, so there is no actual gap.
  • The family had moved out of Rock for those years - there may be more children elsewhere.
  • William was away in military or naval service from a time no earlier than ~July 1808 to no later than ~Oct 1814,
  • William was away from the family, but not in the military or navy. Imprisonment?
  • There's a gap in the parish records. Not sure this is likely - the church seems to have been pretty fastidious in its record keeping.
  • There's a gap in the transcripts.

I'm sure there's other possibilities I've missed.

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Re: Did my ancestor serve in the armed forces (~1809 - ~1814)?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 15 October 18 17:29 BST (UK) »
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