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James Ross
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 14:19 BST (UK) »
There have been many that have tried to find James Ross and Isabella Lamont both of Scotland. The first time we hear of James Ross is in 1808 In Cape Town South Africa, then know as the Cape Of Good Hope. He has formed a partership with Mr. Morrison and the business is know as Morrison & Ross, 3 Shortmarket Street Cape Town.

Then by 1811 we find him marring Isabella Lamont. (Extracts of marriages at the Cape of Good Hope, 1806-1821 (1920) Botha, Colin Graham, 1883-; The Genealogist)
Marriages at the Cape:
ROSS, James, of Scotland, Isabella LAMONT, of Glasgow. Rev. R. JONES,
12/5/1811. ( Military Chaplain at the Cape (Anglican), Cape Town)

They go on to have 7 children - 6 boys and a daughter.

I have gathered info for their lives in South Africa.

But it is there lives before they came here. Where in Scotland was James Ross born, who were his parents, when did he decide to come to South Africa ?

And Isabella Lamont, all we know is that she is from Glasgow, Scotland. So when was she born and who were her parents. Did she come to South Africa with her parents or by herself ?

These two people are my ancestors on my paternal side. My great grandmother's grandparent.

Seeking help please, and hoping there is more information now available. 

 Thanks
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Re: James Ross
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 October 18 14:24 BST (UK) »
Sometimes the names they gave their children can provide some clues as to potential grandparents' names. Scots were known to use in many cases (not always though, or in strict order) Scottish naming pattern. Lots of links for this online, this is just one of them www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm

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Re: James Ross
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 October 18 14:31 BST (UK) »
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Re: James Ross
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 October 18 14:46 BST (UK) »
Yes Monica
That is the family.

As you can see the first son John Alexander died as a baby.
Then came the twins, Alexander and James.   
So was the names Alexander and James that of the grandfathers?
For late another son gets named John Norman McLead Ross

Or is the names John and Alexander the grandfathers?
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Re: James Ross
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 October 18 15:53 BST (UK) »
Children:
John Alexander Ross, b. 20 Feb 1812, chr. 12 Apr 1812, d. 28 Oct 1813. 
Alexander Ross (twin) b. 17 Jan 1814 chr. 5 Feb 1814
James Ross (twin) b. 17 Jan 1814 chr. 5 Feb 1814
Mary Helen Ross b. 25 Jun 1816 chr. 22 Jul 1816
John Norman McLeod Ross chr. 3 Jan 1819 (English church)
Patrick Colquhoun Ross chr. 4 Nov 1821 (English church)


This is probably an easier way to see children's details from an older post of yours.  Also final son from your details, a Robert McMillan Ross b. 1824.

You also have details on Isabella's death in 1844 at the age of 63, birth year therefore c. 1780-1.

Isabella showed as a widow when she died. Have you been able to find anything on James' death to try to firm up approx birth year?

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Re: James Ross
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 October 18 17:33 BST (UK) »
No, I have not found James's death info. The death register for the Cape  starts at 1834. I have looked from that year up to 1844, nothing. So Jame must of died before 1834

Monica would there be shipping passenger list for that 1808- 1811 to South Africa?
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Re: James Ross
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 October 18 18:08 BST (UK) »
I don't know, sorry  :-\ At a guess, possibly too early.

Have you checked archives such as here www.eggsa.org/arrivals/eGGSA%20Passenger%20Project.html

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Re: James Ross
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 October 18 18:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks will check eggsa

Monica, found a civil death entry for James Ross He died 5 Jun 1832 age 59 Cape Town
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Re: James Ross
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 October 18 22:51 BST (UK) »
Might be worth checking to see if there are any references in Scottish newspapers.