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Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« on: Sunday 14 October 18 15:59 BST (UK) »
By Order Of The Carter.

Long time researching  the Carter family tree,
really need help on what happened to two key people, that vanished,
Have confirmed they existed, including Births and census records, address, even a born child,the child has full records , onwards to marriage, children work, death etc

no death records. no divorce, nothing with census or other government records, nothing so far with church / parish records, nothing overseas or military, courts,
names of key importance,
JOSEPH MANNERS   male born approx 1854          no trace
MARTHA CARTER female born 1861  no trace
areas,  BITTON WARMLEY HINTON BEACH GLOUCESTERSHIRE
they both had a child, which was raised by the grand parents,  traced,

these two people are ancestors of mine, and are a very important part of My research, they really are key individuals,
any information would be appreciated, no matter how big or small,
researched all known family tree websites
Carter

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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:36 BST (UK) »

they both had a child, which was raised by the grand parents,  traced,


Could you please give name of child and where/when born.
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:40 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage of a Martha Manners -
q4 1886 Bristol
Vol 6a Page 135

On the same page is George Francis Webb.

1891 -

George Webb   32
Martha Webb   30 b. Beath, Gloucestershire
Betsey Webb   4
George Webb   2
RG12 Piece 1986 Folio 62 Page 21

Same family on the 1901 -

George Webb   42
Mary Webb   41
George Webb   12
Elsie Webb   8
Emily Webb   2
William Carter   brother in law 23
Millicent M Carter   26
William Carter   3 Months
RG13 Piece 4945 Folio 83 Page 22

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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:41 BST (UK) »
Hello, thank you for your reply,
the childs name / details

WILLIAM ISAAC CARTER (not Isaac william)
dob sept 1879   in Bitton Gloucestershire 
dod  sept 1952  Pontypridd. Wales.
Grandparents lived at Beach Farm, Bitton
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:44 BST (UK) »
There is a death of a Joseph Manners  Qtr June 1924  Dist. Bristol    Vol 6a Page 164 that looks a good fit.

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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:46 BST (UK) »

JOSEPH MANNERS   male born approx 1854          no trace


Is this the correct Joseph Manners age 17 Hinton Gloucestershire with his grandmother
Phebe Fleming on 1871 census?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YX-1FY
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:55 BST (UK) »
There is a death of a Joseph Manners  Qtr June 1924  Dist. Bristol    Vol 6a Page 164 that looks a good fit.
Thank you for your reply,

This person looks like a match,I also found, but I have 4 more matches with the same name details, its a real ache, been going round in circles for years with this one,
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 October 18 16:58 BST (UK) »

JOSEPH MANNERS   male born approx 1854          no trace


Is this the correct Joseph Manners age 17 Hinton Gloucestershire with his grandmother
Phebe Fleming on 1871 census?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YX-1FY

Hi, thank you for your response,
Yes and no, I have found 2 people with matching details, both born at a similar date in Hinton, researched both family lines, but not conclusive on which one,
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Re: Joseph Manners Martha Carter Bitton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:00 BST (UK) »
Where does the information that Joseph Manners is the father of William Isaac come from.  Does that record give anymore information on Joseph Manners
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