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How often are civil records wrong?
« on: Monday 15 October 18 14:58 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone
Getting back in to my Irish side but it’s been a struggle with it being a very popular surname within waterford (Sullivan)

I ordered my great grans death certificate to try solve it myself but no luck.

Civil Irish record shows the birth of ellen Sullivan 29 May 1903

Death certificate shows birth as 3 jan 1902

Am I going to be stuck with conflicting records?

Makes me want to give up my Irish search as my other family of Waterford is ‘power’ so I’m struggling on that side too 😔
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:04 BST (UK) »
Why?

Quite common...


Civil Irish record shows the birth of AN ellen Sullivan 29 May 1903

Death certificate shows birth OF  AN ellen Sullivan as 3 jan 1902


Often if a child dies then another born they use same Christian name!
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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:05 BST (UK) »
Why?

Quite common...


Civil Irish record shows the birth of AN ellen Sullivan 29 May 1903

Death certificate shows DEATH OF  AN ellen Sullivan as 3 jan 1902


Often if a child dies then another born they use same Christian name!
Give a man a record and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:07 BST (UK) »
Can you post links to what you are talking about??
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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:49 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dathai on Monday 15 October 18 15:42 BST (UK)
possible David Power and Ellen Sullivan 1923
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09187/5323373.pdf

Ellen 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__3_Urban/Slievekeale/673923/

mother 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Urban_No__4/Tramore_Old_Rd___Pt__of_/1762710/

Yes that marriage is correct as I had those details given to me before my family passed.

Quote from: hallmark on Monday 15 October 18 15:05 BST (UK)
Why?

Quite common...


Civil Irish record shows the birth of AN ellen Sullivan 29 May 1903

Death certificate shows DEATH OF  AN ellen Sullivan as 3 jan 1902


Often if a child dies then another born they use same Christian name!

I get that they sometimes do that but the civil record makes my great gran younger than what she and her family thought. She died over here in England

I have searched during 1902 for a birth to mother ‘gowan’ but not found anything but the 1903 record is the correct parents
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:51 BST (UK) »
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 October 18 15:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Krazykat87 on Monday 15 October 18 15:49 BST (UK)
Quote from: dathai on Monday 15 October 18 15:42 BST (UK)


I have searched during 1902 for a birth to mother ‘gowan’ but not found anything but the 1903 record is the correct parents


So, whoever gave her Death information/details was wrong!
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