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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 23:43 BST (UK) »
hi everyone !ok so i have him on the census , with children and spouse ! but apparently she wasnt his spouse and there is no marriage certificate to say otherwise , and the reason she wasnt married was he already had a wife  !!! ..?

Can you check you've given us the right information - he can't be in a census with children and wife as if the date of birth you gave us is correct, 1895, as McKha489 said, he'd only be 16 in the last available census. Or have you found him in the 1939 register?
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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 23:55 BST (UK) »
yes you right i have  not got them on the census , i have births certificates for all children with his name on it ! sorry i have been through so much  today i have got confused who was on what ! mothers name was young

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 00:04 BST (UK) »
bradley barbara s ,young ,birkenhead 8a 644 ( june 1933 )
bradley douglas s ,young birkenhead 8a 784. (dec 1934)
bradley evelyn j young 8a 776 ( 1938)
bradley william e, young wallasey 8a 846


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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 00:15 BST (UK) »
Is this him on the 1901 census? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9K8-TXR

BRADLEY, AMY mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1878  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 130

BRADLEY, ARTHUR mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 127

BRADLEY, ERNEST mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 579

BRADLEY, PERCY mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1887  J Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 523

BRADLEY, FLORRIE mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1890  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 90

BRADLEY, BERTHA mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 86

BRADLEY, SIDNEY mmn HAMILTON
GRO Reference: 1895  D Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 527

BRADLEY, ELIZABETH  JANE mmn HAMILTON 
GRO Reference: 1897  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 85

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Marriages Mar 1878 W. Derby 8b 418
BRADLEY William Dawson to HAMILTON Harriet

The 1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWRY-GH6
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 01:01 BST (UK) »
I see no marriage between him and a YOUNG.

It is possible he didnít marry her and was already married/separated.

Taking his age into account on the 1911 and assuming he remained living in the area, there are these marriages:

Marriages Jun 1915
BRADLEY Sidney to Ada M PRESTON W.Derby 8b 967

A few possible births, first in 1920, Sidney.

Marriages Mar 1926
BRADLEY Sidney to Selina G REDFERN Liverpool 8b 135

Two births up to 1933. 1927 and 1928, Peggy G. and Kenneth S. G.

Marriages Jun 1928
BRADLEY Sidney to Sarah TIPPER Liverpool 8b 195

I see no births for Bradley/Tipper up to 1933.

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 01:44 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Selina wife of a Sydney:

Deaths Jun 1983 BIRKENHEAD 37 556
BRADLEY Selina Grace born 28 April 1897

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 01:48 BST (UK) »
Cannot see that the 1915 to Preston, and 1928 to Tipper produced any issue - but the 1926 marriage to Selina G. Redfern appears to have had 2 issue: a dau. born 1927 and son 1929.

In 1939 she is living in Cheshire, as is the daughter (but they are not together).

Selina Grace Bradley, nee Redfern, born 28/4/1897 (date confirmed on her baptism) died Jun.1983 Birkenhead.   If this was indeed his first wife then she didn't die until after Sidney himself died (l977).   Divorce was a costly business in those days and beyond the reach of most plus if Sidney had left her she might not have agreed to a divorce anyway.   Whether 2nd 'wife' Gertrude legally changed her surname to Bradley is unknown but a probability I would think.   She certainly died as Bradley.

At the moment, this is supposition as we don't yet know if Sidney's first wife was indeed Selina but the details seem to fit.   

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 01:58 BST (UK) »
Birth:

REDFERN, SELINA  GRACE mmn BROWN
GRO Reference: 1897  J Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 209

Marriage:

Marriages Mar 1886 Toxteth Park 8b 377
REDFERN William Henry to BROWN Selina

1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTM-523
(REDFERN, EMMA  MULVENA mmn BROWN
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 167)

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: DID MY GRANDFATHER MARRY ?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 02:23 BST (UK) »
Annette, do English marriage certs have all parents names listed?

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams