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Hugh Hatton Confusion
« on: Wednesday 17 October 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone

So I am just looking for a little help untangling my brain from this conundrum.

At the marriage of Henry Magee to Anne Hatton on 12th January 1860, one Hugh Hatton & Susan Murphy were the witnesses.

Hugh Hatton dies 22nd August 1912 in Mayogall aged 72 (a Farmer), Francis Dillon (Son-in-Law) was present at the death. Susan Hatton dies 17th February 1915 aged 76, and again... Francis Dillon (Son-in-Law) was present at the Death.

I have done a search for the marriage of Francis Dillon to (Daughter) Hatton, and have found a marriage between Francis Dillon & Bridget Hatten on 15th January 1895 in Lavey. Both Francis & Bridget are resigning at Mayogall. HOWEVER - Bridget's father is listed as JAMES HATTON (Farmer).

There is a Biddy Hatton born 7th April 1871 to Pat Hatten & Susan McAtamney in Mayogall. Pat is a Farmer. And there is a Bridget Hatton born 31 January 1869 in Mayogall to James Hatton (Farmer) & Nancy Birt/Bist/Best.

None of these are Hugh  ??? :'( Where is Hugh? Help me find Hugh?

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 16:31 BST (UK) »
Is this the family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Gulladuff/Moyagall/611011/
Both Francis Dillon and Bridget are listed a nephew and niece.

There is no number of children listed for Susan

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 16:33 BST (UK) »

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 16:46 BST (UK) »
Bridget's surname is Hatton as Sarah's birth cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01648/1658297.pdf

Is she or is she not Hugh's daughter, going by her age in the census she was born late 1860s early 1870s, hopefully she has a birth cert.


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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
I can only see two from 1864 to 1875 in Magherafelt district Bridget to James in 1869 and Biddy to Pat in 1871.

1911 may well be correct and she is a niece of Hugh's.

Didn't see any children born to Hugh and Susan do you know of any names apart from Bridget or have any idea when they married? I only had a quick look.

Sorry, forgot
The 1911 census says married 50 years so about 1860 so any children born before 1864 won't have birth certs but any after will.

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 17:56 BST (UK) »
I would say then, as there is no birth record for a Bridget Hatton to Hugh & Susan Hatton, that Hugh is a brother to Bridget's father. There must just have been some confusion in 1901 where Bridget is put as Hugh and Susan's daughter. It's just strange that in 1911, Francis is listed as a nephew to Hugh, but on both Hugh & Susan's death records he is listed as Son-in-Law  ??? seems they can't make up their mind

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 18:02 BST (UK) »
Going on Bridget's ages in 1901 (31) and 1911 (42), I would say her parents were James Hatton & Nancy Birt/Best

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Re: Hugh Hatton Confusion
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 18:13 BST (UK) »
Something else to throw into the mix -

James Hatton. Death - 3rd February 1910, Mayogall (Farmer/Widower). Age - 72. FRANCIS DILLON (NEPHEW) PRESENT

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 18:22 BST (UK) »
Oh dear, I wonder if it was all about land. People have been know to commit murder for land a few fibs would be nothing.
If Hugh and Susan have no children than someone in the extended family will get the chance to take over the farm. It might explain why their relationships to each other keep changing about.

I have seen nephew used in at least two ways we wouldn't use it today.
For grandson and wife's sister's nephew(by marriage).

I still haven't found any children for Hugh and Susan.