Author Topic: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire  (Read 2988 times)

Offline Sally4x

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 250
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« on: Wednesday 17 October 18 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi my relative Johannes “John” Lendeman was born in Germany around 1830. I have no idea who he married, but he had two children Sophia Christiana born around 1845 and George born around 1850.

He marries his second wife Sophia Prior in 1858 in Lincolnshire and they have three children, Hannah Maria born 1858, Elizabeth Catherine born 1861 and Benjamin John born 1863.

John as he now goes by dies in 1866 in Lincoln. I have been unable to trace him in Germany and this first wife either. From his marriage record I know that his father was Joseph Henry Lendeman.

If anyone can help me with anything on this, I would be very grateful.

Thanks

Offline pb_devon

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 295
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 18 08:14 BST (UK) »
Do you know where in Germany he comes from?  It is likely that you will need to know before proceding further, as most records are kept locally.

Offline Sally4x

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 250
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 October 18 11:48 BST (UK) »
Well that’s the issue. Everything has been transcribed at Comhalsen Cussell which doesn’t exist.

Offline Karen McDonald

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,474
  • ** THINK POSITIVE! **
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 October 18 11:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I don't have access to MyHeritage, but someone on there has your people listed, except John/Johannes is shown as
Benjamin John (Johannes?) Lendeman:

https://www.myheritage.de/names/elizabeth_lendeman

Best regards,
Karen
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd


Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 41,948
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
For anyone looking these are the details from the 1861 census
RG09/2389 f52 p9

John   Lenderman age 30 occ Dealer In Marine Stores- Place of birth not given it states 'Illegible'   
Sophia   age 31 bn Norfolk   
Hannah Maria age 4 bn Castor, Lincolnshire   
Sophia   16   bn Comhalsen Cassel
George   11   bn Comhalsen Cassel  (Germany added by Enumerator)

ADDED
His marriage to Sophia gives his occupation as Mariner and his fathers occupation as Weaver
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 41,948
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 October 18 12:41 BST (UK) »
Those birthdates on census cannot be right.

John is age 30 but he has a 16 year old daughter  ::)
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 41,948
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 October 18 12:50 BST (UK) »
John as he now goes by dies in 1866 in Lincoln.

I am not seeing the death but I do see that an order was served in March 1865 for the removal of John Lendeman, a lunatic, to the Count Asylum at Lincoln.

ADDED Newspaper has his death as 16 March 1866 age 35
Lincolnshire Chronicle 24 March 1866

Deaths Mar qtr 1866   
Lendermann    John    age 35   
Lincoln    7a   311   
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Karen McDonald

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,474
  • ** THINK POSITIVE! **
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 October 18 13:27 BST (UK) »
That's rather sad.  :(

What if the first 2 children, Sophia & George - whenever they may have been born - were also kids of Sophia (Prior) and Benjamin/John/Johannes?

It seems a bit of a coincidence that his first child has the same name as his (2nd) wife...

Seeing as he is listed as being a mariner, maybe he went to England/Norfolk and met and fell in love with Sophie Prior, as a result of which, 2 kiddies were born.  :-*

Maybe the weird place of birth is simply a red herring to cover up their naughty goings-on.  :P

Later, he moved to England, married Sophie, had more kiddies with her, went mad and died. Poor soul.  :(

All conjecture, of course, but what if...

Best regards,
Karen
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 41,948
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Lendeman family moved from Germany to Lincolnshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 October 18 13:35 BST (UK) »
The first supposed child of John & Sophia (nee Prior) - Hannah appears on the 1871 census with Sophia & her new husband and is listed as Anne M Prier age 13.  Elizabeth & Benjamin are listed as Lendmen.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk