Author Topic: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727  (Read 2281 times)

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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 December 18 05:58 GMT (UK) »
part2.

The minutes of His Majesty’s Council for 4 March 1727/8 record a dispute over William Nairn’s salary, incidentally not using the term “Reverend”.  This is presumably the same post referred to in 1722.

“Upon reading the petition of Capt Henry Corbusier in relation to the salary of Mr William Nairn for whom he is attorney.
Ordered that Capt Richard Somersall and Mr Steph. Outerbridge church wardens of Hamilton Tribe forthwith pay into the hands of the said Henry Corbusier (the said Nairn's attorney) all the money that is or can be made appear to be due as his sallary in the said tribe.”
[http://sites.rootsweb.com/~bmuwgw/HMcouncil44.html]

The will of Sir Nathaniel Rich, Kt. made 28 Oct 1636, and proved 1 Dec 1636 by Edward Montagu Viscount Mandeville, the executor, disposes of several shares in “the Bermudas, now called the Somer Islands” among his relatives and to set up a school.

“the residue of my shares there [ie. Bermuda] I give for the maintenance of a free school in those islands:- my desire is that some of the Indian children, to be brought either from Virginia or New England or some other Continent of America, such as my Exor shall think fittest, may be brought over there to be instructed in the knowledge of true religion…”

Edward Montagu later succeeded his father as 2nd Earl of Manchester.  His son Robert, the 3rd Earl, appears to have been either a Governor of Bermuda or of the Company.  There are several references to the free school and the Earl in “Memorials of the Bermudas or Somers Islands, 1515-1685”. That the responsibility for the Free School land had been first that of Viscount Mandevill and then, on his accession to the title, the Earls of Manchester is shown by a letter of the Bermuda Company in 1682:

“(4) The Earl of Manchester is now in France, we shall attend upon his arrival, and then give directions about the Free School Land; let your next bring us a full state of that matter”
[Memorials of the Bermudas, p. 509]

The 3rd Earl died in Montpellier in 1683, having fled political difficulties in England in 1681.  The Memorials do not record whether the planned meetings regarding the school land ever took place.  He does not appear to have left a will proved in London or the PCC.  His son Charles Montagu became the 1st Duke of Manchester in 1719 and died in 1722, buried at Huntingdon.  If he and his father left wills they may be in the Huntingdon Ecclesiastical Court.  If William Nairn did actually inherit the Free School Land, and the terminology does not simply mean his appointment as teacher, then the date makes the Duke’s death a likely trigger for William Nairn’s succession to the land shares.

In 1725 George Berkeley, Bishop of Cloyne, made a petition to the King proposing to set up a theological college on Bermuda, using the land devised by Sir Nathaniel Rich as the core of any land acquisition to build the college.  This petition mentions William Nairn:

“… there are four or five shares of Land in the said Islands commonly called School Lands, understood to belong to a Free School by virtue of Sir Nathaniel Rich’s Will, and that the aforesaid Lands have been enjoyed (as he has been Credibly Informed) by several School Masters in Bermuda, and that part of those Lands were possessed for several Years during the Government of the Deponent, by Thomas Bostock (who as the Deponent hath been late informed) is now succeeded by the Reverend Mr. Nairn …”
[The Works of George Berkley Bishop of Cloyne, Vol 7, 1955, p365-6]

The “Works” are another book that only has limited text visible online. Berkeley later expanded his ideas into “A Proposal For the better Supplying of Churches in our Foreign Plantation and for Converting the Savage Americans to Christianity, by a college to be erected in the Summer Islands, otherwise called the Isles of Bermuda” which he published and is available in its entirety on google.books, but it does not mention the free school land.  The proposal was approved by the King and Parliament, but later opposition from various groups prevented it from being carried out.

William Nairn and Thomas Bostock, mentioned by Berkeley, appear in a list of school masters in public schools in Bermuda:

“After Bermuda became a royal colony, schoolmasters in Bermuda’s public schools had to be licenced by the Bishop of London, but instructors in private schools needed no such endorsement. Clerical schoolmasters included … William Nairn, … , Thomas Bostock, …”
[Michael J. Jarvis: “In the Eye of all Trade: Bermuda and Bermudians, and the Maritime Atlantic World, 1680-1783”, UNC Press, 2012, p. 577 note 48]

I have only recently become aware of the Bermuda and Virginia references for William Nairn,and am still in the process of trying to track down the source material.  I have located a couple of copies of the Nelson book (thank you oldohiohome), but am still working on the others.

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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 December 18 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clontarf,

You've assembled a fascinating biography of Rev William Nairn.

The fact that he brought his family back from Virginia in 1728 and settled in Wiltshire and Dorset triggered a memory of reference to another Nairn with temporal and potential geographic proximity - and I wonder if there could be a link.

Gentleman's Magazine for 1746 (p53) reports that "Ensign Nairn of Graham's Regiment was wounded at the battle of Liege on 11 October 1746".

Col William Graham commanded the 43rd regiment of foot (and then subsequently the 11th regiment of foot). It was the 43rd who initially held a reserve position at the battle of Liege, an allied defeat in the war of Austrian succession, and which is now more usually referred to as the battle of Rocoux.
see https://www.britishbattles.com/king-georges-war-austrian-succession/battle-of-rouc .

The 43rd Regiment of Foot is now widely associated with Monmouthshire, but it was originally raised in Winchester in 1741 -- which is not so far from those parishes in Wiltshire where Rev William Nairn settled.  (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/43rd_(Monmouthshire)_Regiment_of_Foot )

I wonder if the Ensign Nairn who was wounded at Rocoux could be one Rev William's Nairn 's offspring?

Does this tie into any of your research?

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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 December 18 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Full text of "The Vestry Book of King William Parish, Va., 1707-1750 (Continued)"

https://archive.org/stream/jstor-4242704/4242704_djvu.txt

Mr.  Nairn mentioned a few times here, 1728, as preaching a sermon.
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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 December 18 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you usaPetticrew for that link.  Archive.org is a marvellous resource but I often find it difficult to get the right search terms to get a manageable number of results.

Thanks to your link I have now managed to find the rest of the Vestry Book which appeared in 8 parts in The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography from 1904 to 1906:

Volume 11, 1904, pp 289-304, (covers 1707 – 1711);
Volume 11, 1904, pp 425-440, (covers 1707 – 1713);
Volume 12, 1904, pp 17-32, (covers 1714 – 1719);
Volume 12, 1905, pp 241-256, (covers 1720 – 1725);
Volume 12, 1905, pp 369-384, (covers 1725 – 1731);
Volume 13, 1905, pp 65-80, (covers 1731 – 1735);
Volume 13, 1905, pp 175-190, (covers 1735 – 1743);
Volume 13, 1906, pp 265-280, (covers 1743 – 1750).

It was translated from the French original (the property of Miss Lelia Walker of Ft Estill, Ky) and annotated by Prof. R.H. Fife, Wesleyan University and with an introduction by Col. R.L. Maury, Richmond, Virginia.

It appears from Bishop William Meade's “Old churches, ministers and families of Virginia" 1857 that church documents and registers being in private hands was not uncommon.  So my original request that started this topic has been partially answered - there does not seem to be any organised system of depositing such documents in a county/state record office, as there is in England.

The Vestry Book says that William Nairn was paid 120 bushels of wheat for twelve sermons commencing 4 Sep 1727.  However only nine sermons are recorded in the Vestry Book.   The annotator Prof. Fife quotes two sources for his notes about Nairn – Meade’s book, and a collection of documents edited by Robert Alonzo Brock for the Virginia Historical Society in 1886.

Fife and Meade both refer to a farewell letter written by the vestry to William Nairn asking him to intercede with the Bishop to maintain the French settlement as a separate parish.  An excerpt from the letter is printed in Brock’s work which in turn has been sourced from “Papers relating to the History of the Church in Virginia, Vol 2” by William Stevens Perry, privately printed in 1870:

“INHABITANTS Of King William Parish, In Manacan Town, Virginia, To Mr. NEARNE.

[Extract.]

4th July, 1728.
REVd Sir:

Your near departure out of this country obliges us, the Church Wardens and Vestries of King William's Parish, with humble submission, to beg your Assistance when, please God, you are arrived in London. We are very sorry that we can no longer enjoy the pleasure of your good presence and Education. We thought ourselves happy in our late settlement with your Reverence____.

_____We never had above 110 or 120 tithables, but at present our number is 130. You see, therefore, the impossibility for us to raise a Sum Sufficient to keep our own Minister, and since we are conformed to the Laws and Disciplines of the Church of England, and that our Parish is a Royal Gift to us French Refugees, we think we ought not to consent to be dissolved and incorporated into another Parish.

Many of our Parishioners understand no English; but for the sake of our Children and the English Families settled amongst us, we should be heartily Glad to have the Common Prayers and Sermons in English as well as French.”

The original letter is contained in the letter books of The Venerable Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, and was transcribed by an American, Rev. Francis Lister Hawks on a visit to England and to whom Perry dedicates his collection.

The successive transcriptions of the letter introduced some errors – Brock breaks the excerpt into more paragraphs than Perry and leaves out the word “never” in “We never had above 110 or 120 tithables…” and Meade says the letter said there had never been more than 30 tithables.

Brock also includes a transcript of the baptism register of King William Parish originally published in 1860.  This contains 5 baptisms performed by Rev. Mr Niern/Nairn in 1727 and 1728, with two of them stating that he was minister of Varaine [Varina?].  The baptisms do not include his own child Frances, so this presumably occurred at one of the other parishes with which Nairn was associated.

I have so far been unsuccessful in finding any copies of marriages at King William Parish or any registers or vestry books for 1727-28 for Varina or Henrico parishes.

Nelson’s book (which I will get to next week) shows there does exist some document involving William Nairn in marriage(s) – his own or of parishioners


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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 December 18 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spes Ultra

I think it extremely unlikely that Ensign Nairn is one of Rev. William Nairn’s sons.

William’s children were:

Frances (1727 – 1783)
Richard (1729 – 1753?)
Fasham (1731 – 1810)
William (1732 - ?)
George (1733 - ?)
Henry (1735 – before 1793)
Stafford (1736 – 1753)
John (1737 – 1815)
Thomas (1739 – 1739)

An Ensign would have been aged at least 17 on joining the army, so the only one of William Nairn’s sons who could be considered is Richard.  He however was a clergyman, matriculating to Cambridge University in 1749, after schooling by Mr Head in Amesbury.  He was ordained Deacon in March 1753 and is probably the Rev. Mr Richard Nairn dying in June 1753 at Huntingdon.

Henry is called “my late cousin Captain Henry Nairn” in the will of Rev John Nairn of Kingston in 1793.   I have been unable to discover whether this is a military or marine rank.  His brother Fasham was a captain in the East India Company, but Henry is not in any list of EIC officers.  There are a number of references in gazettes to a Capt Henry Nairn of the 64th Regiment of Foot, Pomeroy’s Regiment.   A Capt Henry Nairn of the 64th Regiment of Foot was killed in 1777 at the Battle of Brandywine.  He was aged 42, so could theoretically be Rev. William’s son, but would be too young to be Ensign Nairn. 

There is a soldier Nearne in Wiltshire in the 1740s.  Susanna Nearne was baptized at Melksham on 12 Mar 1743, daughter of Francis, a soldier, and Betty.

The only other Nairns from southern England that I know of who have a military connection are:

- David Nearne, a serjeant in General Pawlet’s Regiment, buried at Maidstone 17 Apr 1748.

- Francis Nairn, son of Francis and Susanna, born 1716 at Herstmonceaux, and a member of the 15th Regiment, Pordon’s.  He could possibly be the soldier at Melksham.

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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 December 18 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Correction to one of my earlier posts - Rev. William Nairn's successor at Poole was appointed 29 Jun 1767 (not 1676).

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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 December 18 14:21 GMT (UK) »
Separation of church and state in the U.S. means church records were/are not kept by the national, state, county, or local government.

An organization where these types of records are most likely found would be the genealogical society, and there is one in most counties, and in each state.  There people can be contacted who are most knowledgeable about what state or county records are available, whether government, church, or private.

https://vgs.org/
http://www.henricohistoricalsociety.org/genealogy.html

You've likely found this:
http://huguenot-manakin.org/manakin/bugg.php

Also helpful:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Henrico_County,_Virginia_Genealogy

One other resource I've found useful is the Library of Virginia, which has some documents online:
https://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/using_collections.asp

If you don't already know of this, I have found this book search useful:
https://books.google.com/advanced_book_search
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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 December 18 22:26 GMT (UK) »

William Nairn served in two parishes in Virginia - King William's parish (Powhatan) at Manakintown and Henrico parish in the period 1727-1728.  He married Susanna Joell from Bermuda around 1725-1727.  One record suggests he may have been married in Virginia.  His first child Frances was born 28 Jul 1727 and baptised 2 Aug 1727.

Does anyone know if records exist for the two named parishes for this period?

Henrico County Historical Society
http://www.henricohistoricalsociety.org/index.html
hchsinfo@yahoo.com

The historical society should be able to answer your question about the existence of parish records.   They provide a contact email address.
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Re: Virginia marriage - Rev. William Nairn to Susanna Joell 1725-1727
« Reply #17 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Clontarf wrote:

"My reference for William Nairn's presence in Henrico comes from John K. Nelson: “A Blessed Company: Parishes, Parsons, and Parishioners in Anglican Virginia, 1690-1776”, University of North Carolina Press, 2001.  Appendix A from this book is a Biographical Directory of Virginia’s Anglican Parish Clergy, 1690-1776 with
Key:
1.   birth – place and date
2.   College or university – degrees(s)
3.   marriage(s)
4.   ordination (d=deacon, p=priest)
5.   Virginia parish posts
6.   ministry elsewhere
7.   nonclerical offices, affiliations
8.   death – place and date

p. 316
Nairn, William. 3. Yes. 5. Henrico (Henrico), 1727-28. 6. Bermuda, Eng. 7. Schoolmaster "


Out of curiosity, I got the John K. Nelson book from a library.   My conclusion, looking at other entries in that Appendix, is that the "marriages" reference, #3 above, refers to the fact that William Nairn was himself married, not that he performed marriages.

The book does not have a bibliography, only source references included in the endnotes.  There were no endnotes for Appendix A.

The publisher gave this info about the author:
https://www.uncpress.org/book/9781469614977/a-blessed-company/
"John K. Nelson is professor emeritus of history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. "

This has an email address for him:
https://history.unc.edu/emeritus/john-nelson/

It is worth sending an email, to see if Dr. Nelson would tell you where he got the info on Rev. Nairn.  He may also have more info on Nairn not published, or point you to sources to check.

At the bottom of that same webpage, there is also an email address for the history department at UNC, in case Nelson's email address doesn't work.

Good luck.
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