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William Bowles Raynor
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 16:47 BST (UK) »
Apologies…. I have asked about this person before but can anyone help to clarify whether if William is the Great (x3) Grandfather of my husband? And, where does the name ‘Bowles’ originate? (I am aware that some children take their parents last name as a middle name). But, the information I have found, to date, is that William (no middle name) was christened in 1806 to Catherine/Kitty Raynor (nee Frost) – no father is listed as he appears to be illegitimate.

Catherine Frost married Samuel Raynor in Nottingham in 1797 and they had one daughter Elizabeth before Samuel died in 1800.

Catherine then had 4 more children; Samuel 1802, Harriett 1803, William 1804, William 1806.

There is a lot of published information about Harriett who married John Fowlke and they and some of their children joined the Latter Day Saints and emigrated to Utah, USA where they became well known and there are lots of references to them on the internet. This information helped me finding details of William Raynor (1806) and his mother Catherine.

It is written that Catherine’s 4 illegitimate children were fathered by Thomas Roper who was also having children with his wife at around the same time. If this is the case why does William have Bowles as a middle name?

William Bowles Raynor married Mary York Else in 1822 making William only 16 years old at the time of his marriage? The witnesses were John Raynor and Mary Ann Alvey who later married but I haven’t found the relationship between John and William.

One other anomaly, is that on census records and certificates that are dated around the same time, William (Bowles) Raynor’s occupation is described sometimes as a Shoemaker and on other records he is in the police force as an Inspector and later in life he is described as Superintendent of Police in Nottingham. Is this right or are these 2 very different people?
(There are lots of newspaper articles with reference to William as a senior police officer).

The research that does seem to match up is that William Bowles’son William bn 1824 was also a Police Officer in Nottingham, like father, like son? And, the census addresses seem to match up even if the occupations differ.

I am also confused because in his will William Bowles Raynor leaves £100 to a Joseph Berrington, no other people are mentioned however, William seems to have had 9 children – wouldn’t they have been named in his will?

Can anyone help from the Raynor, Frost, Roper, York Else or Fowlke family line? I am going around in circles!!

Thanks very much
Bridget

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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 18 16:58 BST (UK) »
I am also confused because in his will William Bowles Raynor leaves £100 to a Joseph Berrington, no other people are mentioned however, William seems to have had 9 children – wouldn’t they have been named in his will?

Do you have the will or are you just taking the information from the probate which names the executor who is not necessarily a benefactor.  His effects were under £100
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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 October 18 17:09 BST (UK) »

One other anomaly, is that on census records and certificates that are dated around the same time, William (Bowles) Raynor’s occupation is described sometimes as a Shoemaker and on other records he is in the police force as an Inspector and later in life he is described as Superintendent of Police in Nottingham. Is this right or are these 2 very different people?
(There are lots of newspaper articles with reference to William as a senior police officer).

The research that does seem to match up is that William Bowles’son William bn 1824 was also a Police Officer in Nottingham, like father, like son? And, the census addresses seem to match up even if the occupations differ.


William senior
1851 - HO107/2132 f568 p26 - Superintendent of Police
1861 - RG09/2461 f7 p8 - Superintendent of Police
1871- RG10/3520 f13 p20 - Superannuated of Police
Dies in 1874

1841 does have him as a shoemaker  HO107/870 bk6 f34 p63
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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 October 18 17:56 BST (UK) »
There's an 1838 newspaper article that refers to William Raynor, Beck St being appointed inspector of night police. This is the address on the '41 Census and the address of Frances Rayner baptised 21 Dec 1835, parents William and Mary.


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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 October 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
Nottinghamshire Review & General Advertiser for the Midland Counties, 4 Aug 1837

DEATHS - On Saturday, aged 6 years, Thomas, the son of of Mr William Raynor, inspector of evening police, Beck Street

Baptisms FindMyPast (transcription)
Thomas Raynor, bap 27 Mar 1831, Nottingham, residence Curr Lane, parents William and Mary

Other Cur (sic) Lane baptisms, parents William and Mary Raynor
Elizabeth, 27 Mar 1827
Emma, 27 Apr 1829

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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 October 18 20:29 BST (UK) »
GRO Birth Registrations
Rayner, Ann Tabitha, December Qtr 1838, reg. district Nottingham, vol 15  page  523 - mother's maiden name Else.

"Fits" the Ann, age 2, on the 1841 Census.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 October 18 20:37 BST (UK) »
The newspaper reports of William Bowles Raynor's funeral in March 1874 gave his age as 71.

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William Bowles Raynor, age 71, Mar Qtr 1874, Nottingham, vol 7B  page 187

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Re: William Bowles Raynor
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 October 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
Re.the "Shoemaker" occupation on the 1841 Census -

Baptisms (FindMyPast transcriptions)
Mary Ann Raynor, 31 Jan 1823, place St Mary (Anglican), parents William Bowles and Mary Raynor, residence Sherridan Street, father's occpn. Shoemaker

William Royner, 20 Sep 1824, place St Mary (Anglican), parents William Bowles and Mary Royner, residence Sheridan Street, father's occpn. Cordwainer


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Re: William Bowles Raynor
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