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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 21 October 18 20:53 BST (UK) »
Assuming that the correct address was 273 4th street, that would be Enumeration District 384, Borough of Manhattan, NYC Ward 16 [the East Village neighborhood of NYC].  I took a quick look at it and didn't see #273 but judging by the surrounding numbers, 265 - 285, it was a working class neighborhood mostly populated by Russian and Eastern European immigrants in 1900.  It was a neighborhood of tenement housing - the old apartments have been renovated and are now trendy and much sought after.

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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 21 October 18 20:57 BST (UK) »
No luck so far.  For what it's worth [which is precious little], there is a tree at FamilySearch which says that Jane died in 1895  -  there is no source for that 'fact' and no location or precise date for the death.  And the tree does not mention William Harris or any time spent in the United States or Canada.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LK44-CXR

Thanks for this . I'm not sure who's tree this is but I would guess it's one of Thomas Murray's descendants.   

Whoever has provided the information has my great-great grandmother's death listed accurately (Susan).  However as you say there are no dates or place of death for either Jane or Michael. Nor does it mention Harris.
1895 is interesting date of death. Jane Harris is supposed to have popped her head back up over the pararpet in July 1897
https://newspapers.library.in.gov/cgi-bin/indiana?a=d&d=INN18970707-01.1.1

Jane (if it was her) tells a story of a murder confession to the press. She promptly vanishes again after this.

Looby :)



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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 21 October 18 21:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jomot for the links.

Unfortunately I cannot read the articles  - the newspapers are appearing very blurry on my screen.

If Jane ran off owing rent that would not shock me  ;D ;D , she seems to have been a bit of a character,

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 21 October 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
Assuming that the correct address was 273 4th street, that would be Enumeration District 384, Borough of Manhattan, NYC Ward 16 [the East Village neighborhood of NYC].  I took a quick look at it and didn't see #273 but judging by the surrounding numbers, 265 - 285, it was a working class neighborhood mostly populated by Russian and Eastern European immigrants in 1900.  It was a neighborhood of tenement housing - the old apartments have been renovated and are now trendy and much sought after.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mw7/

So her address was not East 14th but 4th Street?
Thanks for this Erato - a working class area would make sense given the little I know and her family background.

Looby :)

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
According to that Indianapolis News article, Mrs. Harris gave her story to the Herald.  Presumably that would be the NY Herald and presumably the tale was told in July 1897.  Frankly, Jane's story sounds like fiction and I'll bet she was trying to sell it but, at any rate, that would mean she was living in or near NYC in 1897 and still using the surname Harris.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:16 BST (UK) »
According to that Indianapolis News article, Mrs. Harris gave her story to the Herald.  Presumably that would be the NY Herald and presumably the tale was told in July 1897.  Frankly, Jane's story sounds like fiction and I'll bet she was trying to sell it but, at any rate, that would mean she was living in or near NYC in 1897 and still using the surname Harris.

Yes, the story was fiction. Strange that she reappears after 10 years. If only the 1890 Census survived - she may have been on that one. 

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:22 BST (UK) »
Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 7 July 1897

Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you Erato  ;D

That article has named her as Jennie Harris . I have not come across anything with her name as that before. I reckon the other woman mentioned in the article is her sister Mrs Agnes Space who lived in Deckerstown NJ.

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Re: East 14th Street, New York in 1880s
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:57 BST (UK) »
Regarding the murder, that's probably Rahway, not Railway, as in Rahway, New Jersey. Maybe it happened there?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rahway_Murder_of_1887
Cambridgeshire: Billups, Cropley; Derbyshire: Jenkinson, Gratton; Co Down: O'Rourke, Rodgers, Cunningham