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Offline jonnybrowne1956

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Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« on: Tuesday 23 October 18 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

Is anyone doing any research on Matilda Barton (born High Wycombe c. 1803-1808), married to Richard Smith (born Birmingham, c. 1800)?

According to census records and a Walsall trade directory, Richard was a shoe/bootmaker by occupation.

I have a marriage record from 1824 in High Wycombe for a couple of the same name.

I have full details for their children, one of whom was my great-grandmother Louisa Smith, and subsequent descendants, but if anyone has any information on Matilda and Richard's families that would be a huge help as I've hit a bit of a brick wall.

Thanks!

Jonny
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 12:20 BST (UK) »
There is a baptism in High Wycombe 30 March 1804
Matilda Barton
Parents William & Mary
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 12:44 BST (UK) »
And a Marriage there also;
26 May 1803 All Saints
Wm BARTON to Marey FOUNTAIN
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 13:11 BST (UK) »
I may be off here but this looks like a possible for Matildas Parents/Siblings;

1851 Census
Teddington, Moddlesex
William BARTON, Lodger, Widr, Ag Lab, born c 1786 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire

1841 Census
Battersea, Surrey
William Barton, 55, Ag Lab
Mary Barton, 55
Clementina Barton, 25
All NOT born in County

1851 Census
Reading, Berkshire
Richard Barton, 33, Head, Widr, Blacksmith, born Wycombe Newsh, Buckinghamshire (sic)
Clementina Barton, 38, Sister, Unm, House Servant, born Wycombe Marsh, Buckinghamshire
Emiley Barton, 7, Daug
Frederick Barton, 2, Son
Harriet Barton, 6 mths, Daug

Can you find a Baptism Rosie for Richard/Clementina?
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 13:19 BST (UK) »
Can you find a Baptism Rosie for Richard/Clementina?
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Clementina 25 Oct 1812 -parents William & mary

Richard 18 Oct 1818 -parents William /Mary fathers occ Butcher

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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 13:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks rosie;

Clementina married 1869 to John Goddard in Bucks.
Richard looks to have married 3 times;
1843 to Harriet White (she was buried Reading 18 Sep 1850 age 29)
1853 likely to Mary Ann Lee
1877 to Emily Tilling
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 13:59 BST (UK) »
I dint think Richard is the one Bapt 1 Oct 1800 Birmingham to RICHARD/ANN
They  seem to name another Son Richd 7 July 1808 Birmingham.
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 19:32 BST (UK) »
That would certainly stack up with the birthplace in the census records for 1841, 1851 and 1861 that I've found, although - as ever - the year of birth varies by about five years!   



There is a baptism in High Wycombe 30 March 1804
Matilda Barton
Parents William & Mary
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Re: Matilda Barton and Richard Smith
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 19:42 BST (UK) »
Interesting!!! i'd assumed, maybe wrongly, that the Richard baptised on 1 Oct 1800 was the right man.

I did wonder if Richard belonged to the Romany Smith family, as there is according to members of my father's family a gypsy ancestor.

As with Matilda, Richard's age varies from census to census up to 1861 but his birthplace and occupation are consistent.

I dint think Richard is the one Bapt 1 Oct 1800 Birmingham to RICHARD/ANN
They  seem to name another Son Richd 7 July 1808 Birmingham.
Browne/Brown, Rea/Reay/Ray, Walker, Breedon, Rowley, Smith, Lock, Davis, Griffin, Underhill, Dainter, Best, Lockett