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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #18 on: Friday 26 October 18 14:41 BST (UK) »
I have checked Spencer's baptism in 1839 and it is Church of England. So it is a bit of a puzzle.
I will recheck the 1871 census to see if in some way i have missed Sarah, or maybe she was in Ireland  at that time.
Thank you again for all your help.

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #19 on: Friday 26 October 18 16:24 BST (UK) »
I will recheck the 1871 census to see if in some way i have missed Sarah, or maybe she was in Ireland  at that time.
Not sure how you are going to know if she was in Ireland in 1871 as 1901 is the first complete census for Ireland.

Have you followed up on the records I posted yesterday to see if that is your Sarah's sister Ellen?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 October 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
I have rechecked the 1871 census for England and cannot find Sarah.
I was just guessing that she might of gone to Ireland, maybe grasping at straws because i have looked everywhere for her.
I did check the two records that you put on yesterday and i am unsure that it is Sarah's sister
because there father was a Stone Mason but i will look further into it.
Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 October 18 21:36 BST (UK) »
I looked at findmypast.ie for baptisms of Sarah and Ellen and found none that match. I didn't see any Church of Ireland records in the results, so maybe they don't have them.

I thought I had read this somewhere, here is the link:
C of I records to come online soon:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/new-digital-church-of-ireland-records-will-make-searching-for-ancestors-easier-1.3639993

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There are no Arthur Cunninghams on the 1901 Census of County Down who are old enough to be the father of Sarah and Ellen.

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In Griffith's Valuation of County Down, (1863-64), for Arthur Cunningham. (This assumes that Sarah's father Arthur was still alive in 1863, 1864.)
There are 8 men listed. I would concentrate on the first two, since they are not renting land.

Rathmullan Parish, Rossglass Townland, parcel 10c, house only,
Kilbroney Parish, Newtown Townland, parcel 15 Aa house and office
Kilkeel Parish, Aughrim Townland, parcel 7, house, offices, and land
Kilkeel Parish, Aughrim, 27, mountain, joint occupancy with many others
Kilkeel Parish, Dunnaman Townland, house, offices, and land
Kilkeel Parish, Leitrim Townland, parcel 8A, 8B, house, office, and land
Kilkeel Parish, Ballykeel Townland, parcels 43A, 43B, 43C, house, offices, and land
Kilkeel Parish, Moneydorraghmore, parcel 71, house and land

found at
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

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Arthur Cunningham deaths, in County Down, 1865 - 1922, at https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

I eliminated all for which there were images, based on age at death or occupation.  That left these three:

Name   ARTHUR CUNNINGHAM
Year of Death   1875
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Newry
Deceased Age at Death   74
Returns Year   1875
Returns Quarter   4
Returns Volume No   16
Returns Page No   586

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Name   ARTHUR CUNNINGHAM
Year of Death   1869
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Kilkeel
Deceased Age at Death   74
Returns Year   1869
Returns Quarter   2
Returns Volume No   6
Returns Page No   466

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Name   ARTHUR CUNNINGHAM
Year of Death   1870
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Kilkeel
Deceased Age at Death   70
Returns Year   1870
Returns Quarter   4
Returns Volume No   16
Returns Page No   397

The images of these are available, information on getting them is at:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do

However, I think more civil record images are coming online soon also, but I don't know what they include.

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I don't know where else to look in the Irish records. Maybe you can find a clue in the English records, an obituary or news clipping, etc., but probably not likely for a poor woman in that era. If you can tie any of the Cunninghams on the Isle of Man back to Rathmullan Parish, or Newtown Townland in Kilbroney, that might lead somewhere.

I think of Cunninghams and County Down as my "home turf" genealogically speaking, although I live in the US, so that caught my eye when I saw your question. I enjoyed working on it and I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't get anywhere -yet.


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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 October 18 23:33 BST (UK) »

"Sarah PRYER, wife of Spenser PRYER......In 1881 they are living in Wrexham Wales."

Can you identify this census entry please........what names and ages etc.

"They had 3 children one of which was Beatrice Maud Pryer"

What names and ages please for these children....Beatrice Maud, plus.....?

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 27 October 18 00:13 BST (UK) »

"Sarah PRYER, wife of Spenser PRYER......In 1881 they are living in Wrexham Wales."

Can you identify this census entry please........what names and ages etc.

"They had 3 children one of which was Beatrice Maud Pryer"

What names and ages please for these children....Beatrice Maud, plus.....?

I haven't looked for the census, but here are the children, based on earlier replies:

1881: Wrexham, Wales w 3 children
       - Beatrice Maud Pryer
       - William Arthur (23 Sep 1872, Co Meath - )
       - Joseph Spencer Pryer (8 Oct 1873, Naas, Kildare - )
        bap 11 Nov 1873, Aldershot, Hampshire (RC)

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 27 October 18 09:55 BST (UK) »

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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
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Re: Sarah Cunningham and family
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:52 BST (UK) »
I think the mothers surname on the two record are Ansell because it says formerly not maiden name,just a guess.
Maybe i should try and look at the deaths you gave me for Arthur Cunningham.
I have checked most of the English records again but found nothing.
Now i am thinking where they from County Down because the only evidence i have is the 1911 census which states that fact.
I will keep on trying to find them.
Thank you again for all your help.
Maybe something might come up.