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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 24 October 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
Re the dates listed by Bronwen in her original post for children of Mary and Thomas, I've checked the parish records and found :

Two results for baptisms st Berrington to parents Thomas and Mary Williams  1830+/- 10

3 January 1836 Elizabeth of Cantlop, labourer
21 Feb 1841 Ann of Cantlop, labourer

No John 1830-31

Two with same parents names in Acton Burnell

5 October 1821 William of Acton Burnell, labourer
22 Dec 1822 Mary of Acton Burnell, labourer

Nothing in Pitchford
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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 24 October 18 18:02 BST (UK) »
I have not found Samuel Cecil [born 1869] but perhaps he dropped his second Christian name?
 
If so, the following may concern Samuel (Cecil) Williams......

Death:

1940/22068   Williams   Samuel   70Y

Funeral notice:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19400302.2.6?end_date=31-12-1940&phrase=2&query=samuel+williams&start_date=01-01-1940

Obituary:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19400306.2.90?end_date=31-12-1940&phrase=2&query=samuel+williams&start_date=01-01-1940

His will:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B9-2CT2?i=705&cc=1865481


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O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 24 October 18 21:15 BST (UK) »
Kio ora

To answer your questions.
Just checking you have read the William's death notice found by minnehaha in reply #8? This confirms age of 79 at death not 64 & much more in keeping with death caused by senile decay. 
Yes I have fixed this - which his death certificate has on it.

I have not found Samuel Cecil [born 1869] but perhaps he dropped his second Christian name?
Samuel Cecil Williams signed the death certificate with his name in full.

The census for Thomas & Mary
1841 Thomas 40 Ag. Lab., Mary 40, John 10, Hannah 8, Elizabeth 5, Anne 4 months, Cantlop, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.  (all born in Shropshire)   
1851 Thomas & Mary Williams house named Windy Mundy within the Pitchford Estate reg district Atcham, Ann 10 scholar, Eliz 8 scholar, Hannah 17 no occupation listed, John 20, farm labourer reg district Atcham
1861 Thomas & Mary Williams, Upper Cottage, Pitchford, Shropshire, Eng. Ann living with her parents, listed as Agr. Labourerís unmarried daughter

Reg. - means I have the register

The information will have come from GenesReunited, possible some from Family Search and the Shropshire Family History Society. 

I had wondered whether he might have been married in Shropshire prior to emigrating.

There are 6 results for emigration for a William Williams born in Shropshire - none of which is him - that is on Family search.

Thanks for the many references to press notices etc.  The most important one was says William Williams previously of Waimate and Kaiapoi.  I shall find a history of Waimate where he may get a mention.

Still keen to see his emigration details.

Many thanks to you all for the great work.

Regards Bronwen








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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 24 October 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
Part quote:

"I had wondered whether he might have been married in Shropshire prior to emigrating".

New Zealand marriage:

1861/3439   Sarah Ann   Cooper   William   Williams


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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 24 October 18 21:55 BST (UK) »
Yes thanks I had that information.  What Iw as thinking was whether he had married twice, perhaps back in Shropshire before he came here, perhaps she died, or possibly came with her and then died.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 25 October 18 05:34 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Minnie
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 25 October 18 06:51 BST (UK) »
And sadly, the death of another wee one....

1869/8268   Williams   Thomas William   5Y

Added: And this wee soul too....

1869/8271   Williams   Charles Alfred   2Y


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
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GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 25 October 18 07:42 BST (UK) »
Marriage:

1904/130   Amy   Williams   William   Bennett

Death:

1950/29661   Bennett   Aimee Frederica    67Y

Her probated will which names family.......

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9J8-ZCPP?i=156&cc=1865481

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.