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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 25 October 18 07:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this one too.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 25 October 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
I think this is Nellie May........

Marriage:

1904/7017   Nellie Mary*   Williams   William Joseph   Loader

*Incorrectly shown as Mary

Death:
1936/15128   Loader   Nellie May   54Y

Husband's probated will:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9K6-78MT?i=141&cc=1865481

His remarriage:

1938/4744   Frances Ruth Oriel   Gloistein   William Joseph   Loader

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 25 October 18 08:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks Minnie for those two, pretty tough stuff, two in one year.

Now what do people think of this:
1841 census William Williams nailor, sister Mary Williams living at Longden Coleham St, Shrewsbury, Shropshire - see attached, makes sense.

1851 only problem with this is it says he was born in Wales.....but he is a nailor as it says in the first one.  I need to check whether they are in the 1861 census, as he had left for NZ before that.

I wonder if i have the right Williams now.  My mother said her Granny's family moved from Wales to Shropshire before her grannie was born -1841 Feb 21 Ann Williams, Cantlop, Shropshire, Eng. was born.

Any ideas.
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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 25 October 18 08:42 BST (UK) »
The 1851 census I put up is not him as that William Williams is in the 1861 census.

Now to look further.

cheers Bronwen
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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 25 October 18 08:44 BST (UK) »
Three points:

Wales & Shropshire do share a border.

The 1861 census was held on 7.4.1861.

William Williams marriage date was 6.5.1861.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 25 October 18 09:02 BST (UK) »
Part quote from reply #34....

"Thanks Minnie for those two, pretty tough stuff, two in one year".


Charles Alfred, aged 2 years died on 8.5.1869.

Thomas William, aged 5 years died on 6.5.1869.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 25 October 18 09:10 BST (UK) »
Yes I am very aware of the border between the two.  But he came to NZ in 1856 so couldn't be in the 1861 census and married in Christchurch in 1858.

cheers Bronwen
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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 25 October 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
You could request a look up in respect of the "Intention to Marry" document. This would not provide William's date of arrival in New Zealand but would give the length of time he had lived in the area where he was intending to marry. Have a look at the information on the Resource page.....

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 25 October 18 09:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks Minnie i have never heard of that.

cheers Bronwen
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh