Marjory McPoland nee Greer- possibly married Kitts b1836, lived Scotland

[Cwellan CoDown]

Hi all

I am looking for a bit of help unraveling a bit of a mystery

I have a death certificate for a Ellen Poland in Ireland died 21 Aug 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06243/4787386.pdf

Present at the death is a Marjory Kitts, daughter in law Glasgow.

I found an Arthur McPoland, married Marjory Greer in Banbridge in 1863
They seem to have moved to Scotland in before 1866 (Had 1 child in Ireland, who died in Glasgow in 1867) and had 2 more children - James b 1866 and Arthur born 1869

I have found this family as Pollands in the 1871 census in Scotland - 644/1 82/ 11
Father Arthur is a carter.

Now I am trying to see if I can tie this into Marjory Kitts?

I have found a Marjory Kitts in 1881 in Glasgow, from Ireland, but her age is out as she is only 29?
Her children though are James and Arthur - ages 15 and 12 both born Glasgow, and I can't find any Arthur or James Kitts born in Glasgow. I know this is unlikely to be them given then age- but looking for anything now!

The McPoland name seems to be McPoland, Mcpolland, McPolin, Polland, Poland, Pollin so they are a bit elusive!

Any help finding out anything more about Arthur, Margery and the children in Glasgow, would be great!

[CaroleW]

Can we have some more info about Ellen please?

She was 70 when she died so born around 1815/16 - where?
Did she definitely have a son called Arthur?  1871 shows he was b Ireland 1840

If Arthur married Marjory Greer - he must have died and Marjory re-married if her surname was Kitts on Ellen’s death cert

Have you looked for a death for him and a remarriage for Marjory

Son Arthur’s birth was registered as McPolland in 1869

[Millmoor]

There is a marriage of a James Kitts and Marjery McKnight in Blythswood, Glasgow in 1877.

Wiiliam

[Cwellan CoDown]

Hi Carole,

Irish records are very hard to find as civil registration didn't start to 1863, and most events for Ellen are before this.

I have found Elleanor marriage to Arthur McPoland in 1838 in Dromara parish registers - (~I belive they may have been related, as it states consang

The baptism records for Dromara, don't begin until 1844, so haven't been able to prove Arthur's birth.
I have today been told there was definitely a son John McPoland, born to Arthur McPolin and Ellen Smith, who emigrated to the USA, but have to research this properly still

Via Arthurs marriage certificate to Margery Greer, I know his father was Arthur.

There is a lot of speculation involved in this, and trying to get more information on Margery Kitts might help, especially as Scottish death records are useful.

So far I think there is 3 sons born to Ellen and Arthur - Arthur, John, and Partick (Patrick is my GG Grandfather). Unfortunately, there is no definite proof that Eleanor is the mother, (but all have a father Arthur) except the marriage between Ellen and Arthur, and Ellen's place of death (Ardtanagh, Dromara) on her death record.

[Cwellan CoDown]

There is a marriage of a James Kitts and Marjery McKnight in Blythswood, Glasgow in 1877.

Wiiliam

I have looked up this marriage and Margery is listed as a 28 year old spinster.

However, her father is listed as John Mcknight - Blacksmith, and her mother Elizabeth McKnight (nee Greer) - both deceased.

On the marriage cert of Margery Greer and Arthur McPoland in Ireland in 1863, Margery's Dad is John Greer, Blacksmith.
There is therefore some similarities between the 2 Margery's