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John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« on: Friday 26 October 18 15:13 BST (UK) »
John Fleming and Anne Buchanan were married in Falkirk in 1832. John worked as a nailer and the family moved to Lanarkshire for better work prospects. Anne died in Bridgeton in 1890; can anyone help with a date for John's death ?
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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 October 18 16:36 BST (UK) »
Can you give us some sort of time frame...what censuses have you found John on? Was Anne a widow when she died in 1890?
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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 October 18 17:42 BST (UK) »
Have you looked on Scotlands People for a death for him?

If you are looking for his actual date of death you will only get that by downloading a copy of his death cert

No Anne Fleming death in Bridgeton in 1890 on SP

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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 October 18 17:51 BST (UK) »
1861 shows them in Stirling

John was 50 b Edinburgh occ nailer and Anne  was also 50 b Falkirk

Are you sure you have the right death in 1890?  Have you downloaded the death cert?  The birthplace of the Anne Fleming in Bridgeton in 1881 is Beith Ayrshire?

The 1861 shows RD as Falkirk Landward and there is a John Fleming death in that RD in 1868 but he was 64

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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 October 18 18:26 BST (UK) »
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 October 18 18:32 BST (UK) »
There are several deaths of Ann Fleming, other surname Buchanan, Three are in your time frame.

1864, Perth, aged 41
1867, Glasgow Blythswood, 74
1890, Glasgow Calton, 80
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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 October 18 19:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the replies. Ann died at 68 main street Bridgeton on 20th March 1890, widow of John Fleming nailmaker. Her daughter in law Jane Fleming was the informant. Perhaps Anne stayed with her son when she was widowed ?
The last census that John appeared in was the 1861 census in Falkirk. The family followed work taking them wherever. Their four eldest children have obviously left home by then.
I have  many records from Scotlands People relating to the family and I am sure that John's death record will eventually turn up.
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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 October 18 19:19 BST (UK) »
Was Ann aged 80 when she died?  Death registered Calton?

She was still in Stirling in 1871 - b 1807 Falkirk and was widowed so John died between 1861 - 1871

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Re: John Fleming and Anne Buchanan of Falkirk
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 October 18 20:37 BST (UK) »
I have a copy of the 1871 census for Camelon (just outside Falkirk) and you seem to correct. There are two children recorded daughter Ann aged 16 and son John aged 15. Slight problem given that their daughter Ann was born 1847 ? I wonder if a subsequent daughter was named after a dead sister.
Back to the drawing board.
Thanks for all the help
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