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How did they travel?
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 16:55 BST (UK) »
Sorry, gentlemen, but perhaps another stupid question from a female  :-[

How did troops travel to various areas/battles?  In particular I am thinking of the 2nd Anglo-Boer War.  I have a young boy/man who served with the Royal Berkshire Regiment - he obtained the Queen's SA Medal, King's SA Medal and clasps for Cape Colony, OFS and Transvaal.  So how would he have travelled to these locations - forget about actually arriving in SA from England  ;D ;D

And the same for India, he re-enlisted and was married in Karachi and his son was born in Meerut.

My sincere apologies if I'm asking VERY stupid questions.   :-*
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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:35 BST (UK) »
From piecing together information about my Grandfather who was in the Royal  Engineers, I know he sailed to South Africa for the 2nd Boer War on the Bavarian, a new transatlantic liner commandeered by the MOD as a troopship to transport men to South Africa. After landing at Durban they were transported up country to the battle areas by train.

I imagine it was a similar arrangement for you relative,
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jebber, at least a start. 
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:47 BST (UK) »
I have newspaper interviews with 3 of my Grandfathers brothers who faught in the Boer War (and WW1) - the interviews took place between the wars and are very detailed
Yes they did travel by train but the largest form of travel was by horse - the horses were ridden pulled equipment and sometimes were on the train with the soldiers - it must have been awful -some times the horse had to be killed for food -some died of exhaustion - some died of fevers - hundreds of thousands of them- I believe horses came from several countries . The men formed close bonds with their horses - must have been devastating when they died /were killed - I find it very difficult to even think about this the reports are so moving - I'm sure you wil find information somewhere on the net

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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:59 BST (UK) »
Hi - thanks for that.  Yes, I did know that horses played a major part in this conflict.  Having visited SA, and travelled to some of the historic Anglo-Boer War sites, I also know that a trail of resting places can be ascertained - usually, obviously near to water, BUT also you will find evidence of cosmos flowers along those routes.  Fodder was garnered from South America, via the sea voyage, and the seeds of the cosmos were in that fodder. 

The things you learn when you travel with South Africans in SA  :o
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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 October 18 17:59 BST (UK) »
There is a book that may be of interest.

The Royal Berkshire Regiment 1743-1914  by Martin McIntyre £12-99.

It is available by post from the Regimental Museum.

thewardrobe.org.uk

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 October 18 18:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jebber, I will offer that to the family member (not my family) on whose behalf I have been "nosy".

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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 October 18 18:35 BST (UK) »
There were a number of vessels chartered by the War Office that acted almost exclusively as troopships travelling on a schedule in some caes  as for example troops going and coming to and from India.  Examples here:

https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Trooping_season

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Re: How did they travel?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 October 18 18:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Max:  Yes, I can see the transport via sea - but how did they travel on land, once they arrived?

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