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Offline louisa maud

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 28 October 18 23:45 GMT (UK) »
My suggestion of an Irish birth wasn't that far out if  Jon's info is right, sounds good to me but  cert would solve it

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 28 October 18 23:54 GMT (UK) »
LM
Sadly I think he is ruled out (unless he committed bigamy!). 1939 index shows the daughter born 1921 in Plymouth living with William and Annie.
So my research wasn't so brilliant regarding him. Well it was OK(!), but ultimately it led to the chap who died in 1941, but probably didn't marry Nellie!
John

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #38 on: Monday 29 October 18 00:04 GMT (UK) »
Well Jonw, we rootschatters  have fun searching, you never know  what the cert brings yet, I just hope one is purchased as I don't like things left undone where we don't find the outcome
Still don't know why he wasn't found on the 1939 unless of course he was away in one of the services

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #39 on: Monday 29 October 18 03:48 GMT (UK) »
I'm personally thinking that William F. could be the William Frederick Halliday born 4/2/1899 Thanet, Kent, died April 1990 Swale, Kent.

This man was in the Royal Navy from 26/5/1915 until pensioned in 1939 (he then seems to have served again during WW2).   Being in the Navy could explain why he possibly married Nellie Lever in Weymouth.

It looks like, from what has already been stated, that Nellie had a daughter in 1943 initially registered in name of Halliday but later amended to Sanger - Nellie (as Nellie E) Halliday remarried to Charles Sanger Jun.1945 Sturminster.

The same year William F. Halliday (46) married a Violet L. Philpott - Mar.qtr.1945 Thanet, Kent.

I suspect if I've identified the right man that William and Nellie divorced and that he returned to his birthplace with each of them remarrying in 1945.

It's a possible scenario anyway BUT the only way you can positively proceed is by purchasing the marriage certificate of William and Nellie and establishing a) his full name, their ages and his occupation and b) their respective fathers names.   

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #40 on: Monday 29 October 18 03:58 GMT (UK) »
There is this family in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X72Y-X82

Also a bapt that gives Nellie DOB as 12 Feb 1901

Nellie Lever
Birth Date:   12 Feb 1901
Birth Place:   East Tisbury, Wiltshire, England
Father's name:   George Henry Baker Lever
Mother's name:   Emma James

1939 free index in Wiltshire gives a Nellie E Holliday later Sanger born same date. No other in Household

Marriage cert needed to confirm on right lines.

Cas

Nellie E Halliday is not alone in 1939 - redacted entry on next page which is no doubt the daughter born in 1927.

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #41 on: Monday 29 October 18 07:31 GMT (UK) »
I think it is a wait and see game now till a cert is purchased, hope the originator lets us know

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Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #42 on: Monday 29 October 18 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all very much for your leads and thoughts.
I will purchase the marraige certificate then we will have an outcome.
One thing I know for certain is he died prior to 1953 as his grandaugter states he deid before she was born.
Thanks again.

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #43 on: Monday 29 October 18 08:57 GMT (UK) »
The same year William F. Halliday (46) married a Violet L. Philpott - Mar.qtr.1945 Thanet, Kent.

Found a Violet Halliday listed as  Auxiliary on free  1939 Kent , birth given 20/09/1900, shown as "M"

Violet Lilly Halliday died 1984 Swale, D of B as above

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: William F Halliday and Nellie Lever
« Reply #44 on: Monday 29 October 18 10:04 GMT (UK) »
I asked because I was following a William Halliday on previous census, his parents were Irish, at the moment we have no idea who is parentage is, it was just a question trying to eliminate the  wrong ones

Louisa Maud

Thanks Louisa Maud.
There are quite a few possibilities to eliminate. Also the second name Francis, Frederick or so on, might not be recorded in other records and Nellie could be as Eleanor. As said by everyone, the only sure way to find out is to send off for the marriage certificate.
I sent off for one recently and it arrived a week later! So I'm guessing now is probably a good time to send for it to get a speedy reply  :).