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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 October 18 13:54 GMT (UK) »
The only requirement is that they were a qualified informant - i.e. they fell within one of the legal categories that allows them to give the information about the birth.

Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953
(2)The following persons shall be qualified to give information concerning a birth, that is to say—
(a)the father and mother of the child;
(b)the occupier of the house in which the child was to the knowledge of that occupier born;
(c)any person present at the birth;
(d)any person having charge of the child.


Which is more or less what is in the 1874 Act reply #2
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 October 18 14:16 GMT (UK) »
My great uncle was born 20th May 1915 and his birth registered on the 1st July 1915. Born in Grays Inn Buildings, Holborn and the informant was a I. Fisher "present at birth" and her address was given as a street in Holloway, Islington. Not yet traced her but I assume she was the midwife.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Remember that in the earlier years of registration it was the responsibility of the Registrar to locate the births. 

I have a registration for a child born on 2 March 1843 to a "Travelling Gipsey & Tinker".  He was registered on 26 April by a woman who was "present at the birth".  This was eight weeks later and the family had doubtless moved on by then.  He's the only one of the children of these parents for whom I've found a registration. 

I suspect this lady was the local midwife and known to the Registrar, and that he might regularly approach her for news of local births.
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 15:16 GMT (UK) »
That is probably a big reason why many births went unregistered until the laws were tightened up in 1874. If the registrar and his deputies had to tour the district getting notes on new births then it is a no brainer that some were missed, or some parents did not want the baby registered so kept it hush hush, may not have been easy as people did tend to know everyone's business back then. They only had to provide the info to the registrar if they found out and wanted info on the birth until 1875.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Not unusual for someone who is going to the town where the Registry Office was to register the Birth whilst there.

One of my Irish great-grandfathers registered the birth of his godson shortly after civil registration of births began in 1864. The father of the child was probably my GGM's brother, living on the same plot of land. The father may have been working away at the time of his son's birth. My GGF's qualification as informant was "sponsor".
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 16:16 GMT (UK) »
The 1836 Registration Act stated;
" every Registrar shall be authorized and is hereby required to inform himself carefully of every Birth and every Death which shall happen within his District after the said First Day of March, and to learn and register soon after the Event as conveniently may be done, without Fee or Reward save as herein-after mentioned,"

It was left to his discretion to employ such lawful means of informing himself as appeared to be best, but he had to employ some means. He would most likely have referred to people such as doctors, midwives, undertakers etc. that would have knowledge of any birth or death in his district.
If the birth was not registered within forty-two days there was also a fee of two Shillings and Sixpence entitlement for the Superintendent Registrar, and five shillings for the registrar, Section XXII. So there was an incentive to register the birth, but also not to register it after 42 days, to avoid the payment.
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 18:10 GMT (UK) »
My 3x GGM registered births of her twin grand-daughters, in capacity of occupier of the house where they were born. Her surname was different to theirs because she was married to her 2nd husband at the time. The babies were premature and died within 24 hours of birth. A family friend was informant of their deaths. Same date on all 4 certificates so I assume the two women went together.
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 22:17 GMT (UK) »
My grt grt grandpa registered his sister's twins at the same time he registered my grt grt Aunt's birth.  They had been born within a couple of days of each other.
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Re: Person registering the birth of a child
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 November 18 13:29 GMT (UK) »
I've just done a quick tally of the certs in my collection:

England & Wales =
Mother: 43
Father: 14
Present: 2 (one is also the householder)

Scotland =
Mother: 6
Father: 14
Present: 1

Australia =
Mother: 3
Father: 17
Other: 2

Number on the Scottish and Australian births are boosted by others on the pages, so still relevant to this post.

The Australian registrations were mostly done by letter, and of course it was mostly the man in the house who wrote "business" letters! One of the "others" was an aunt of the mother, and the other was the local Constable.

Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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