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Offline pincard

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Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« on: Monday 29 October 18 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Can’t find a marriage for Daniel Carey to Eliza Martin
Daniel born abt. 1861. Whitechapel died Dec 1909 St Georges East  Stepney . Eliza Born abt. 1860 Shadwell died 1923 St Georges East. I have found the family In Census with different spellings of Carey. Kerry in 1911 and Gury in 1901. I have found three sons Thomas 1894 John 1896 and Michael 1897. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 October 18 19:30 GMT (UK) »
How many years wed is stated at 1911?
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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 October 18 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: pincard on Monday 29 October 18 19:26 GMT (UK)
I have found three sons Thomas 1894 John 1896 and Michael 1897.

Your dates don’t look quite right for the known children:

Thomas Carey mmn Martin, Dec qtr 1891 St Geo East
John Carey mmn Martin, Sep qtr 1895 St Geo East
Michael Carey mmn Martin, Jun qtr 1897 St Geo East
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 October 18 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: PaulineJ on Monday 29 October 18 19:30 GMT (UK)
How many years wed is stated at 1911?

OP says Daniel died 1909.  So unless Eliza made one of those helpful 'errors' by inserting her marriage details not required as she was a widow, then we won't know.

It may be of course quite likely that they did not marry - I have relatives from St George in the East who did not bother, and also did not register their children, though many were baptised since they evidently regarded that as a suitable alternative.
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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 October 18 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Thomas would have been conceived around early 1891 - have Daniel and Eliza been found in that census?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 October 18 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Sorry lost connection Eliza states in 1911 she was married 20 years

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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 October 18 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I am having bad internet problems can’t even get into my tree. Sorry.

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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 October 18 20:23 GMT (UK) »
It maybe that Eliza was married previously -- if so her maiden name would still be Martin on childrens' birth records - but marriage entry would give her married name.

I can't see them together in 1891 at the moment (although that doesn't mean they aren't there of course!)
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Re: Looking for Marriage Carey to Martin please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps this is them with errors in 1891:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q4KF-NT2

Class: RG12; Piece: 284; Folio: 66; Page: 59

In the original, Eliza MARTIN is listed first as head of the family.  Head is crossed out and replaced with 'wife'.  Daniel is then 'Head' and he was born in Whitechapel, a dock labourer, so there are a lot of similarities.

There is an Ann MARTIN with children Eliza and John in 1871, again living in St George in the east.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB85-QN8

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