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James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« on: Tuesday 30 October 18 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Looking for info on James BELL, b 1898 possibly Queensland. Gave his parents as John Bell, painter/Jane Bell (Stewart). James served with the 15th Batt Australian Imperial Force and was in Scotland around 1918. Would love to trace his movements to complete my research on extended family.

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Davie
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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 10:04 GMT (UK) »
 :)

Can you provide his service number please.

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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 10:18 GMT (UK) »
No birth reg. QLD.

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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 12:04 GMT (UK) »
No service number mentioned in document I have, just 'Electrical Engineer, Private, 15th Batt, AIF'.  On the Scottish doc I have dated 1918, gives age as 20, he gives his usual address as Queensland (presently at Sutton Very, England). Possibly the location of his regiment before he came to Scotland?
Dempster - Glasgow, Muirkirk, Sorn, Ayrshire
McIntyre - Glasgow, Campsie
Hinde - Glasgow, Wolverhampton
McLintock - Glasgow, Kilmarnock,
McGlade - Rutherglen, Ireland
Kettlewell - Yorkshire

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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 20:43 GMT (UK) »
 :)

Re the Scottish document, can you give a date in 1918 and the document's title and purpose please.  Privates in the AIF were allocated service numbers.  They were all volunteers.   In 1918 they were usually in France.  Here's some live links to help... including some possible sightings of files for a Private J BELL, 7671.   :)   You may need to send email to NAA to ask for information about the reasons for the empty files ... possibly he enlisted for 2nd AIF - WWII. 

15th Battalion, AIF  https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/U51455
Engineers https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1338645
Service Records http://naa.gov.au/collection/a-z/researching-war-service.aspx
WWI nominal roll AIF https://www.awm.gov.au/advanced-search/people?roll=First%20World%20War%20Nominal%20Roll
James BELL 7671 15th Batt, 24 August 1917, return to Australia 2 March 1919.  https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1380354?image=3

There are files, withheld or not yet digitised, are indexed  at the National Archives of Australia and they MAY (and of course MAY NOT) be for your chap...   https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/5190233/1
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/672596/1
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/32904757/1

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Sutton Veny was a Command Depot, for the AIF - lots of info via Google  :)


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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 21:46 GMT (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242444703 The Herald, 11 Feb 1918.

Very useful information re the Sutton Veny camp :) The Mr A Fisher, High Commissioner, mentioned in the cutting was previously the Prime Minister of Australia (and a Queenslander !). 

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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Following up on majm's finds, this looks to be his war record:

KYLE John Browne : [AKA BELL James] : Service Number - 1708 7671 : Place of Birth - Glasgow Scotland : Place of Enlistment - Brisbane QLD : Next of Kin - (Mother) KYLE Jane Stewart
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=7375576

Image 43 shows a marriage certificate extract:

Married Anderston Glasgow 13/2/18

John BELL Pte 15th Bn. AIF
Age 20
Address Queensland (presently at Sutton Veny)
Electrical Engineer
Father (dec) John Bell (House Painter)

Janet Robertson GORMAN
Age 19
Glasgow
Munition worker
Father George Gorman (dec) Butcher


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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Well found Matthew  :D

Sometimes the naa links fall over, so here's another just in case
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/7375576/1

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Re: James BELL, b1898 Queensland?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 00:27 GMT (UK) »
Probate notice for Jane Stewart Kyle, mentions another son Thomas Stewart Kyle, second column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41921505

I canít see her death on QLDBDM, or burial in Brisbane

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