Brick wall.. William Powell..

[Mabel Bagshawe]

He obviously had a thing against schools - and was one of a little gang

1899
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3465033/3465035/13/

1899 - again
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3634580/3634588/66/

1900  (alone - pigeons this time)
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3745472/3745479/136/

1901
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3479574/3479577/70/
(another welsh language paper mentions they had previously absconded from the Pontypridd workhouse)

1903 - absconding from the reformatory
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3415319/3415327/182/

[EILATANSW]

Wow. Thanks so much for those. I did find records of him being sent to reformetory schools.. but i hadn't seen any newspaper articles. brilliant.

i dont think i'll ever find anything of him in his adult life.

[RayDen]

Is this William Powell/Jones on 1891 census:

Name:   William Powell
Age:   11/12
Estimated birth year:   abt 1890
Relation:   Son
Father's name:   William Powell
Mother's name:   Elizabeth Powell
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:   Llantwitfardre
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Catherine
Town:   Pontypridd
County/Island:   Glamorgan
Country:   Wales
Registration district:   Pontypridd
Sub registration district:   Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel:   22
Piece:   4420
Folio:   130
Page Number:   47
Household Members:   
Name   Age
William Powell   33  Head
Elizabeth Powell   30  Wife
William Powell   11/12   Son
Susan Lamkins   80
Thomas Rees   17
John Gouerie   19

Birth:
Name:                   Mother's Maiden Surname:
POWELL, WILLIAM       REES     
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 468
(from GRO index)

Parents marriage:

Surname    First name(s)        District    Vol    Page
Marriages Jun 1886   (>99%)

POWELL    William        Pontypridd    11a   560    
REES    Elizabeth        Pontypridd    11a   560   

Think William Powell senior died 1894 or 1895 in Pontypridd:

Deaths Sep 1894        age
Powell    William    42    Pontypridd    11a   224    
Deaths Dec 1894   
Powell    William    50    Pontypridd    11a   265    
Deaths Sep 1895   
Powell    William    39    Pontypridd    11a   257   

Elizabeth Rees marriage to James Morgan

Surname    First name(s)        District    Vol    Page
Marriages Mar 1897   
Morgan    James        Pontypridd    11a   638    
REES    Elizabeth        Pontypridd    11a   638    

(but married under maiden name not deceased husbands name?)

As already suggested by AVM possible reason for Jones name, The Reformatory School Record (West Yorkshire) shows that apart from his parents names (Elizabeth Morgan mother, James Morgan Step father) two other contact are given.

Mrs Jones (aunt) Cardiff
Mr W J Morgan (uncle) Brecon

This record also has a photo of the boy and records that he also has tattoo's:

1.  On chest
2.  On right arm: crossed swords and letters F.H
3.  On left arm: letters E.W.P  and E.M

Have tried to locate a possible lead on the 1939 register with the given date of birth of 7 April 1890. There is one William Jones with that date living in Merthyr with wife Gwen Ann, but can't find the link to William Powell/Jones.

Ray

[RayDen]

Notification of discharge from West Yorkshire:

Name:   W Powell
Gender:   Male
Event Date:   9 Jul 1905
Residence:   Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England
Record Type:   Discharge
Volume Date Range:   1904 - 1914
Reference Number:   WRT/1/84
institution:   Calder Farm

Notes on the register says that in Jan 1907 he was living at home with parents and working at the Great Western Colliery as a fitter. In Dec 1907 his stepfather James Morgan says he is doing well and is a very good lad.
On 30 March 1908 he enlisted in the Glamorgan Field Artillery at Newport, and on the 11 July 1908 he was shown as Driver W Powell, 53 Battery RFO Newport.

Ray