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Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« on: Wednesday 31 October 18 12:26 GMT (UK) »
He was born 1851, in Mile End, to another Isaac William Mallindine, mother was Martha Ann.

I have the following Census records for him;
1861 RG 9/268/54 p 8
1871 RG10/516/55 p 2
1881 RG11/595/105 p 22
1901 RG13/359/43 p20.
1911 RG14/1787.

He died in Lambeth, 1911 (FreeBMD).

He appears to have had 3 wives;
Elizabeth Moore, mar 1878-08-05, Bethnal Green
A "Brown" listed as mother maiden name in a GRO record for Marth Ann Mallindine, b3rd qtr, 1895
Sarah Susanna Peploe, mar 1895-03-25, Southwark.

So far, so good.

My problem is 4 of his children;
George (b1880), Amos(b1888), William(b1890), Ernest(b1893).


I cannot find a birth registration for any of them. It may be "interesting"
that their births seem to fall around the time of the missing 1891 census.

If anyone can help me find the census, and/or birth records for the children I would be very grateful.

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 12:52 GMT (UK) »
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A "Brown" listed as mother maiden name in a GRO record for Marth Ann Mallindine, b3rd qtr, 1895
Sarah Susanna Peploe, mar 1895-03-25, Southwark.

Surely a child born 3rd quarter 1895 after a marriage 25 March 1895 (1st quarter) would have Peploe/w as the mother's maiden surname if indeed Sarah was a spinster when she married
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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:18 GMT (UK) »
She's Sarah Ann Peploe in the FreeBMD index for the 1895 marriage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:19 GMT (UK) »
She's Sarah Ann Peploe in the FreeBMD index for the 1895 marriage.

...& indeed Sarah Ann Peploe on the parish record (33, spinster, dau of Edward Peploe, decd, decorator).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I'd have thought it likely that Sarah brought the four mystery sons into the marriage with her.

George, Amos and William all have middle initial M per 1901 - have you found out what that stands for?  Perhaps the surname they were born/registered with?

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:37 GMT (UK) »
I'd have thought it likely that Sarah brought the four mystery sons into the marriage with her.

George, Amos and William all have middle initial M per 1901 - have you found out what that stands for?  Perhaps the surname they were born/registered with?
Sorry; I have found census records for Susan/Sarah/Susanna Peploe as follows:
1861, 1871, 1881, 1901, 1911.

She was b1858, d1914. She is an unmarried laundress living with her father in 1881, and is Mrs Mallindine in 1901.

You can see my interest in "various people's" 1891 censuses!  :)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:40 GMT (UK) »
How odd.  Presumably you have seen how long Sarah claims to have been married for, per 1911 - and how many children with Isaac?

I wonder whether they had a relationship on the side and her children were kept under the radar, records-wise?

What happened to Elizabeth Mallindine (23 in 1881) - I can't see a good match for a death?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:44 GMT (UK) »
How odd.  Presumably you have seen how long Sarah claims to have been married for, per 1911 - and how many children with Isaac?

I wonder whether they had a relationship on the side and her children were kept under the radar, records-wise?

What happened to Elizabeth Mallindine (23 in 1881) - I can't see a good match for a death?
This, I think, although I'd hate to defend it before a good barrister;

FreeBMD

Deaths Dec 1898
Mallendine Elizabeth 37 St. Saviour 1d 29

calc: 1898-37=1861

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Just to confuse matters further, there is a 1900 Southwark school record for a Martha Mallendine born 26.12.1896 with parent Elizabeth Mallendine ???

Is this "our" Martha - albeit birthdate a year out - and if so Elizabeth is still around in 1900?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)