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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:46 GMT (UK) »
How odd.  Presumably you have seen how long Sarah claims to have been married for, per 1911 - and how many children with Isaac?
Those dates and numbers apply (IMHO) to Isaac's "aggregate wives".

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 13:51 GMT (UK) »
I think (and thanks for the discussion, which has  crystallised my thoughts) that Isaac was living in sin with Sarah, possibly under the name (either for him or her) or "Brown".

So the 1891 census, and the childrens' births would not be under the obvious names.

The relationship is clearly complex - nobody's commented on the witness at the 1878 Mallindine/Moore marriage... (highlighted)

dan-dun-DAH!

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the interesting amendments made in 1923 to the marriage register entry for Ernest Mallindine and Rose Midwinter (married at St Mark, Walworth, 31 May 1914)?

Column 2 (name & surname) - originally Ernest Mallendine.  For "Mallindine" read "Peploe otherwise Mallindine".

Column 3 (age) - originally 20 for Ernest. For "20" read "21".

Column 7 (father's name & surname) originally Isaac William Mallindine. For "Isaac William Mallindine" read "Amos Peploe".

Corrected on 3rd October 1923 by me A Cottam, vicar, in the presence of Ernest Peploe & Rose Peploe, the parties married, a statutory declaration having been made as to the facts.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:23 GMT (UK) »
One to look at for Ernest?

Ernest Peploe, mmn Moore, Dec qtr 1892 Lambeth 1d 322.

This is consistent with his birthdate as reported later on (when he and wife Rose are using the Peploe surname) of 3rd November 1892.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:26 GMT (UK) »
A death for his brother Amos?

Amos Peplow aged 24, Jun qtr 1913 Strand.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Another one:

William Peploe, mmn Moore, birth reg Dec qtr 1890 St Saviour Southwark.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:34 GMT (UK) »
In fact I see (free index) that both George and William are using Peploe in 1911.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the interesting amendments made in 1923 to the marriage register entry for Ernest Mallindine and Rose Midwinter (married at St Mark, Walworth, 31 May 1914)?

Column 2 (name & surname) - originally Ernest Mallendine.  For "Mallindine" read "Peploe otherwise Mallindine".

Column 3 (age) - originally 20 for Ernest. For "20" read "21".

Column 7 (father's name & surname) originally Isaac William Mallindine. For "Isaac William Mallindine" read "Amos Peploe".

Corrected on 3rd October 1923 by me A Cottam, vicar, in the presence of Ernest Peploe & Rose Peploe, the parties married, a statutory declaration having been made as to the facts.
No. To my shame, I have had that certificate for a  while, and never read the note.  :-[

It appears that this may be a close knit and intermarried trio of families (Malllindine, Peploe, Moore), and some "casual adoption" has been going on.

I will endeavour to decode it all.

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Re: Isaac William Mallindine, East End boy?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 31 October 18 14:57 GMT (UK) »
1891 census: 2 Victoria Court, St Mary Lambeth:

Amos Moore 35 General labourer St George's
Sarah do 30 Newington
George do 10 St George's
William do 6mo Lambeth

RG12/388/25/50.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)