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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 01 November 18 13:02 GMT (UK) »
I think we have to wait  for the cert the ordinator said he was going to purchase,

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 03 November 18 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Louisa Maud,

Sorry for the delay in replying but I am back home now and on the road to recovery. The marriage cert has been ordered but they take longer as they are not on the PDF pilot yet.

Jack
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Also MACKIE, SIMPSON, CARSTAIRS, CHRISTIE, LEITCH, DUNCAN, PENMAN, LAMBERT, BEVERIDGE, GIBSON, RENWICK

NEWBY of Sweffling, Benhall, Peasenhall area of Suffolk

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 03 November 18 11:27 GMT (UK) »
CARTER, ELIES JOHN mmn SLEEP
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in ABINGDON  Volume 02C  Page 306

Sadly, another one that can probably be eliminated. Likely was born Sutton Courtenay, son of John and Julia.
Married to Elsie in 1911 (free index)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7L8-GM3

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 03 November 18 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Pleased you are feeling better Jack, we will wait and see what happens now

Take care

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #22 on: Monday 12 November 18 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Louisa Maud,

Marriage cert arrived at last.

John Elias Carter, 27, married Charlotte Ann Clarke, 33, in the register office in Holbeach, Lincolnshire on 25 Feb 1911  It names his father as Richard Carter, ag lab and her father as Henry Clarke, ag lab (deceased). Her sister Hannah was a witness.

I'll start on this tomorrow.

Jack
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NEWBY of Sweffling, Benhall, Peasenhall area of Suffolk

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #23 on: Monday 12 November 18 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Trish wrote and I think she might well be right
Appears to be be in 1881;
Henry Clarke, 30
Hannah Clarke, 29
Ellen Clarke, 9
Harriet E. Clarke, 6
Charlotte A. Clarke, 4, Daug, born Holbeach***
John Wm. Clarke, 1

All above MMN Jackson BUT some registered without the E just to confuse things

1891 Hannah is living as a widow with 3 more children
Sarah Jane 1882
Hannah 1886
Fanny Eliza 1890 all  born Holbeach

So we might have found Charlotte and family but I am no nearer John Carter



Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I would go along with what Trish has found.

I think that Hannah's maiden name was Bescoby. She was the daughter of William Jackson and Sarah Ann Bescoby. I am wondering if Sarah Ann reverted back to her maiden name after the death of her husband. Any thoughts?

Jack
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NEWBY of Sweffling, Benhall, Peasenhall area of Suffolk

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 12:54 GMT (UK) »
If that is the right family found by Trish, then I must have found the right family in 1911? With an error on the original, and more in the transcriptions.
With Hannah Clark and her son William (John William?)
and married daughter S Ann (should be Charlotte) Carter and son in law John Carter (both of the right sort of age)
And in Tydd St Mary!

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Re: Parents of John Elias Carter
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 14:21 GMT (UK) »
Yes, spot on, jonw65. The fact that Hannah Clark is listed as blind (extreme left on original) may have had something to do with the confusion.

Further to my earlier post, Hannah Bescoby's address was the Union House in Spalding, adding weight to the assumption of death in the family.

Jack
BLYTH of Wemyss, Markinch, Dysart, Kirkcaldy
Also MACKIE, SIMPSON, CARSTAIRS, CHRISTIE, LEITCH, DUNCAN, PENMAN, LAMBERT, BEVERIDGE, GIBSON, RENWICK

NEWBY of Sweffling, Benhall, Peasenhall area of Suffolk