William Peters Hayes/ Peters and Hayes families, Mold

[katyH2811]

Hi there!
Over the past few years I’ve been trying my hardest to find out more information on my grandfather’s great-grandfather, William Peters Hayes.

I’ve traced him as William Hayes back to the 1841 census as a 6-year-old, living in the same area as an Ann Peters. In the 1851 census, he’s living with Ann and her adult son Edward Peters, a butcher, and William is working as a butchers apprentice (assumedly to Edward Peters). There is also an Elizabeth Hayes, aged 11, living with them and working as a servant. Family stories indicate that William had one sister, and that he was a butcher before coming to Australia as a young man, so this would fit.

Try as I might, I haven’t been able to locate a solid birth record for either William or Elizabeth. There was one William Hayes born in the area at the right time, but I was able to see that his parents went on to have many more children, and that that William hayes was living with them in the 1841 census.

I’m now wondering if it would be possible that William’s birth surname was Peters, but his mother married a Hayes and he was given that surname too. Is that a likely scenario, or am I clutching at straws?

Would appreciate any guidance or advice that anyone could offer me.

Thank you in advance! X

[rosie99]

For anyone trying to help

1851 - HO107/2501 f534 p11 - Wrexham Street, Mold
Ann Peters - Widow age 64 - Lodging House Keeper
Edward Peters   Son   age 30 - Butcher
William Hayes   Butchers Apprentice - age16   
Elizabeth Hayes   -age 11 House servant
All born Mold

Same address in 1841 - ref HO107 /1410 bk12 f35 p7
Ann Peters and Edward are in same house but different 'household'  to William Hayes.

Occupants of other household are
Thomas Jones age 40
Thomas Morris 25 Not bn in County
Elizabeth Morris 25.
William Hayes 6 Not born in County

[hanes teulu]

Possible Edward Peters baptism? (FindMyPast)
Edward Peters, 13 Dec 1818, abode Mold, parents William and Ann, father's occpn. publican.

Re. the 1851 Census does Ann Peter's age (64) rule her out as a probable mother for Elizabeth (11) and William (16)?

The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registration of -
Elizabeth Hayes, June Qtr 1842, reg dist. Holywell, vol 27 volume 255 - mother's maiden name Ellis

Mold falls within the Hollywell registration district.

[hanes teulu]

Baptism FindMyPast
Elizabeth Hayes, 14 May 1842, abode Bistree?, parents Seth and Elizabeth, father's occpn Labourer.

NOTE - every time I get a "hit" on FindMyPast it's telling me I've viewed that record before!!

[rosie99]

NOTE - every time I get a "hit" on FindMyPast it's telling me I've viewed that record before!!

Probably because you looked at them when researching this post
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=768741.

[hanes teulu]

Thanks -it was as I suspected but hadn't gone searching for the other thread.

[Cas (stallc)]

Think that possibly married Elizabeth Morris maybe the mother of William Hayes as in the household in 1841 and the couple are next door in 1851, with two Morris children

There is a bapt for Elizabeth Peters dau of William & Ann 1816 on FreeReg

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5b1bec6bf493fde7379574c7?search_id=5bdc56bef4040b689cf352bc&ucf=false

Possibly she married a Hayes then a Morris?

Cas

[rosie99]

Think that possibly married Elizabeth Morris maybe the mother of William Hayes as in the household in 1841 and the couple are next door in 1851, with two Morris children

In 1851 she has two children Jane & John. 
RG09 / 4274 f46 p5

Their possible birth registrations give mmn Williams
MORRIS, JANE       mmn WILLIAMS     
1845  Sept Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 27  Page 237