Sarah FOULKS born c1814 Hope, Flintshire

[JamesDMcBust]

Thank you both. Yes I can see them in 1851 and note an extra child Mary Ann born 1816. I've followed her up with a marriage on 6 Sep 1856 to William Davies but all it shows is father John Edwards and that they were living in Cymmau. No mention of any Foulkes as witnesses as I was hoping.

Would a visit to the church in Hope  be likely to reveal anything - maybe tombstones with Foulkes names on?

[trish1120]

Other Marriages Hope around the same time as John/Sarah;

MARY Foulkes to Richard POWELL 30 Dec 1836
HARRIETT Foulkes to Richard JONES 09 Dec 1844
(FreeREG)

It may be worth following these couples up on Census to see where Mary/Harriet say they are born.

Mary may at least be a sibling of Sarah as she names a Daug Mary Edwards.

[trish1120]

1851 Census Harriet Jones is born c 1820 Hope, Flintshire, Wales
(living in Denbighshire)
1861 1819 Flintshire
1871 under Harbert Jones

FindMyPast seems to have the Marriage Banns
Name   Robert Hughes
Event Type   Marriage Banns
Event Date   1844
Event Place   Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Spouse's Name   Harriet Foulkes
I dont have access

This may be her in Flint, Flintshire in 1841 Census;
Thomas Foulkes   55 Engineer
Edward Foulkes   18 Engineer
Mary Foulkes   55
Hariet Foulkes   22
Further down the page;
Catherine Foulkes 20
Sarah 2
Mary 1

1851 Edward F is born c 1823 Flint

Worth looking at for possible connection to your Sarah.

[osprey]

I was checking the marriages for the various Foulkes marriages in Hope to see if there were any linking witnesses. No obvious ones as yet but the Harriet marrying Robert Jones gave her residence as Nantyffrith, same as that on the possible Sarah baptism in Minera. Robert lived in Cymmau.

Parish map showing the neighbouring parishes
http://photos.geni.com/p13/d9/5b/33/e6/5344483a9b106c72/north_wales_300_original.jpg

Pity the 1841 census is missing!

Forgot to mention her father John, labourer

[osprey]

the Catherine with Sarah & Mary in 1841 is in Holywell in 1851 with husband John and more children. Her place of birth is Mold and baptism in Flint for eldest child Sarah notes her maiden name as Hughes.

[JamesDMcBust]

Wow.... and still the information keeps coming.  I have to say I am having trouble making total sense of it all. 

Are we saying that the couple Thomas Foulkes (and wife Mary) both born 1786 on the 1841 census are showing 2 children Harriet b.1819  and Edward b.1823, could be the parents of the Sarah Foulkes I am seeking to identify? 

The Catherine Foulkes who is with her two daughters Sarah and Mary is probably married but where is her partner?  Incidentally I can only find a marriage to a William Foulkes in 1837 which fits in with the ages of the children as in 1841.

Certainly Sarah was married in 1835 and would have not shown in the 1841 census as being part of this family.

If Catherine was Sarah's younger sister she might well name her children after her sister and mother.

Am I on the right lines here?

[osprey]

the Catherine Foulkes from the 1841 was born Catherine Hughes and married John Foulkes. They're in Flint in 1841 & Holywell in 1851. She gives her place of birth as Mold in 1851. I don't think the family in Flint is likely to be yours.

The 1841 census for your area of interest doesn't survive so you are unlikely to find any family members in that year.
 
The Harriet Foulkes who married Robert Jones 9 Dec 1844 in Hope could be a younger sister of your Sarah. Her residence at marriage is Nantyffrith and father John, labourer.The possible baptism I found for Sarah had father John living in Nantyffrith. On the 1851 census, there's a possible for Harriet in Glascoed, Brymbo place of birth given as Hope HO107/4277 folio 80 pg 6
same family in 1861
Glascoed, Brymbo RG9/4277 folio 80 pg 6
Robert Jones head mar 52 sawer b. Brymbo
Harriet wife 42 b. Flintshire
Elizabeth dau 12 b. Flintshire
James son 10 b. Brymbo
Mary dau 1 b. Brymbo
Jane Hughes sister visitor widow 35 dressmaker b. Flintshire
Thomas Hughes 1 b. Flintshire
so another possible sister. In 1851, place of birth for Harriet & Elizabeth given as Hope parish.

There's a marriage for a Harriet Foulkes to Robert Hughes on 9 Dec 1844 in Flint, her father being Thomas, collier. On the 1851 census, the couple are living in Flint and Harriet's place of birth is given as Northop.So different family.

[trish1120]

Thanks for clearing that all up osprey.
Esp the Marriage info for Harriett to Robert Jones.

I thought the 1841 Census may have not been the right Harriet as I said and at least we now know she married Robert Hughes.

So I agree Sarahs Father is likely John.

[trish1120]

Sorry it was late last night when I posted an got confused when I posted this;

indMyPast seems to have the Marriage Banns
Name   Robert Hughes
Event Type   Marriage Banns
Event Date   1844
Event Place   Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Spouse's Name   Harriet Foulkes
I dont have access

I was looking for the Harriet Marriage to Robert Jones

At least with ospreys help it was sorted out