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Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« on: Tuesday 06 November 18 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Can anyone help in tracing my relative in WW1. He was born Fred Griffin in 1884 in Turton, Bolton, Lancashire. He enlisted in the ASC on 13/4/1915 and was a Driver with the Horse Transport, No: T4/083466 and was awarded a Silver War Badge due to sickness.
I only have a copy of his War Medal Records and it doesn't state where he served, but it was overseas. He did survive the war.
If anyone can help in shedding any light on his service that would be brilliant.
Thank you
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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 November 18 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Over 60% of WW1 service records were burnt during the WW2 blitz.  If his had survived it would have been available on Ancestry etc
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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 November 18 17:42 GMT (UK) »
I think you have the wrong man. There is an army file on FindMyPast for Fred Griffin T4/083466. He was born in Anstey, Leicestershire circa 1877.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007264084%2f00840&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7264084%2f57%2f840
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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 November 18 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Record is also on Ancestry  :) for the one Shaun has mentioned born 1877

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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 November 18 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Although born as Fred Griffin 1884 Turton and appearing as such on 1891 and 1901 census - he appears to have married as Frederick and appears as such on 1911 census!  After that he seems to be Fred in 1939 and 1964 (death).

What I'm saying is that to further complicate things he could have enlisted as Frederick rather than Fred.

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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for your replies, it gave me something to think about and investigate further. The only clue I have is in a newspaper article about his brother Tom being injured it mentions "his brother Pte Fred Griffin is in the ASC"  That is why I thought the medals record belong to him. I have tried searching for Frederick, even though is birth record is Fred, but I have been unable to find anything in that name. Back to the drawing board, I presume!

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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 16:40 GMT (UK) »
you might want to consider these:
F Griffin (Frederick)
Army Service Corps, Army Service Corps, Royal Garrison Artillery
T4/059926, S/059926, 220584
Fred Griffin
Army Service Corps
M2/175166
Frederick Griffin
North Staffordshire (Prince of Wales's) Regiment, Army Service Corps
39539, 2/209140
There are others but with middle initials.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 November 18 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for the useful information, which has put me in a bit of a dilemma now. I can discount the Fred that I originally thought it was and I think I can also discount the Frederick in the North Staffs as he was transferred to the RASC after the date of the newspaper article.
That leaves me with two choices: Fred or Frederick
I also have several photos of unknown soldiers which I am trying to identify and I think one may be of Fred. It is of a couple with a baby, the man, slightly older than the others, is in uniform but no cap or other markings. Fred was in his mid thirties and he also had a baby daughter born on 21st Nov 1914 so he could have enlisted around that date. Although he did have two young sons who are not on the photo if it is him.
Double dilemma! Any suggestions.
BMan

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Re: Fred Griffin, Army Service Corps WW1
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:42 GMT (UK) »
The RASC & ASC are one in the same.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/