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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

I note intended residence other parts of British Empire. That may answer why they don't seem to be on the 1939 ?
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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 15:16 GMT (UK) »
I have now found there UK address "Roborough House" which is on the passenger records. It was vacant in 1939
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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Two earlier sailings from London to Port Said 1832 and 1934 both have the child listed.

Haynes Mrs E E D age 30 London to P Said, 29 0ct 1932 ship Orama Orient Lines.
Child V T Haynes age 5
Nurse Miss M Quinn age 53
Address Fir Trees Camberley Surrey.    ref FMPast
Dyer,Wilts,Weare Somerset Dorset Wilts.
Weare/Robinson Ottawa Canada.Petty Wilts.
Simper Wilts.West Wilts.West Vermont.Kelsey Surrey.Chappell
Chapel Essex.McPherson,M Pherson MacPherson
Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 November 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
According to the National Archives Edna divorced her husband Hugh Arthur Haynes in 1937
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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 November 18 03:12 GMT (UK) »
The address in Torquay on shipping records was the home address of husband Hugh's father.   He died in Torquay (in a nursing home) in 1935.

So what happened to Edna and her daughter?   The last time I see Edna in passenger lists is when she returned from Canada on 13/10/1935 but she appears to have been travelling alone.

On US Border crossings from Canada on 18/6/1935 her birthdate is given as 18th October 1903 Dublin (if I'm reading it right) BUT I note she and Hugh married in Dublin 1924 and that her maiden name was Barrett.   I subsequently found her with her family on 1911 Irish Census and Edna E D Barrett was then 13 years old i.e. shown bc.1898 and tallies with 1901 census when she is 3 (transcribed as Edva).   Her parents married in 1896 Dublin and Edna obviously born latter 1897 or early 1898 so at least 5 years older than she admitted to on passenger lists.

So I'm intrigued now as to what happened to Edna after arriving back in UK October 1935?   Can't see her leaving again, can't see a remarriage, and what became of daughter Veronica?  (I note that husband Hugh arrived from India on 20/5/1938 and the following year supposedly married to a Mildred.   However, he died on 6th Feb 1962 Torquay, probate to a solicitor and Mildred Haynes, single woman.  Mildred subsequently died in 1993 but it sounds like they were never actually married although she clearly changed her name to his). 

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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 November 18 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette

I was aware of the Roborough House link to Hugh's father.

Hugh did have a cousin Mildred Haynes 1885-1965 who I have down as the Mildred on his probate, but I note your Mildred is shown as died 1993 so I'm happy to be corrected. Hugh & Edna's 1937 divorce record does give the respondent as Rowland George Winn, 3rd Baron St Oswald, but I cannot find anything to suggest they married.

I also cannot locate Veronica. I note that Edna had "Dupre" in her name so is there a French/Canada link there seeing Edna returned from Canada alone in 1935.


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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:51 GMT (UK) »
This couple are in Wadebridge Cornwall 1939.     Dates of birth appear correct.
Mildred is using same name as on probate record, stating she is a single woman.
One closed record  ie child
Nursery governess and a  cook. Unable to post full details due to Rootschat guidelines.
Dyer,Wilts,Weare Somerset Dorset Wilts.
Weare/Robinson Ottawa Canada.Petty Wilts.
Simper Wilts.West Wilts.West Vermont.Kelsey Surrey.Chappell
Chapel Essex.McPherson,M Pherson MacPherson
Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 November 18 15:27 GMT (UK) »
In case you do not have this.Edna  daughters birth.
Believe childs father may have been a retired Army Officer due to 1939 entry.     
Excellent info you have revealed Annette.

       Veronica Haynes born 1927
       Lancaster England
       Mother Barrett
       Vol 8E  Page 937
       England and Wales Births 1837-2006   Ref,FindMyPast
Dyer,Wilts,Weare Somerset Dorset Wilts.
Weare/Robinson Ottawa Canada.Petty Wilts.
Simper Wilts.West Wilts.West Vermont.Kelsey Surrey.Chappell
Chapel Essex.McPherson,M Pherson MacPherson
Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
Census information Crown Copy right from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: UK Incomming Passenger. Edna E D Haynes
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 November 18 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brionne

Thanks for the info. I see Anc are showing her birth as 8 October 1905 for the 1939
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