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Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« on: Thursday 08 November 18 10:29 GMT (UK) »
I have been doing my tree for years now and have hit a confusing problem.
My 2x Great Grandfather was James Jupp born 4 July 1863 Horsham
His mother my 3x great grandmother called Harriett Jupp born 1847 Horsham
Father is not on the birth certificate of James Jupp.
Harriett was a Servant for most of her life from a young age of 13.
James was born why Harriett was in service, I can not find James at all on the census of 1871.
James is not with his grandparents.
So I'm at a lost of what happened to poor James.
Can anyone help me please.


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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:09 GMT (UK) »
I have been doing my tree for years now and have hit a confusing problem.
My 2x Great Grandfather was James Jupp born 4 July 1863 Horsham
His mother my 3x great grandmother called Harriett Jupp born 1847 Horsham
Father is not on the birth certificate of James Jupp.
Harriett was a Servant for most of her life from a young age of 13.
James was born why Harriett was in service, I can not find James at all on the census of 1871.
James is not with his grandparents.
So I'm at a lost of what happened to poor James.
Can anyone help me please.
First guess: he had been fostered and was recorded with the foster parents surname.
Did the mother have any married sisters perhaps? I have certainly known census entries for step children in the step father's name despite them using their father's name in later life.

Researching side branches to SWMBO's main tree has thrown up  several cases of children being "redistributed" around the extended family.
Crabb from Laurencekirk / Fordoun and Scurry from mid Essex

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Welcome to Rootschat.
Baptism of James Jupp, 30 August 1863 at Hunston. Mother Harriett.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWG9-P8B

Marriage in Hunston, 23 January 1864, of Harriett Jupp to James Harmer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWG9-PFW

Is there any connection?


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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:33 GMT (UK) »
That birth reg?
JUPP, JAMES
Mother's Maiden Surname: 
GRO Reference: 1863  S Quarter in WESTHAMPNETT  Volume 02B  Page 279

Westhampnett district covered Hunston.

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 November 18 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Marriage in Hunston, 23 January 1864, of Harriett Jupp to James Harmer

A daughter Frances Harmer (mother Jupp) registered in March 1865, Westhampnett.

If we are looking at Hunston, rather than Horsham, this might be a possibility for Harriet in 1851. Parents William + Frances
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG83-P29

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 November 18 13:54 GMT (UK) »
If this is your James Jupp in Ashford, Kent, in 1891, he has a Thomas Harmer, 19, Sawyer, born Maidstone, as a lodger
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK43-PZM

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 November 18 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him in Kent in 1881, as Harmer?
James Harmer, 18, Sawyer, born Sussex Chichester
Nephew to George Harmer
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-FMV3

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 November 18 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for you help.
Harriett Jupp never married.
She was always in service.
Her father was James Jupp 1811
Her mother was Charlotte Challen 1811

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Re: Stuck on searching for Child history - James Jupp
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 November 18 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Welcome to RootsChat.


Could this be your James ?

Baptised Hunston,St Leodegar
James Jupp
30th August 1863
Mother ,Harriet Jupp
No occupation

From SFHG info

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know