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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 November 18 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Interesting household here at Ferryport in 1901.   Canít look at the image of course

Members:   
Name   Age
Robert Husband   45
Margaret Husband   46
Ann Sturrock   24
William K Husband   22
Margaret N Husband   19
Bella N Husband   16
Robert Husband   14
Lily N Husband   13
Kate Dorward   23
Alexander Dorward   21

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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 November 18 19:58 GMT (UK) »
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Rosie99, I think that is her, despite a different spelling of her first name.  Age 25 and Scotland fit.  Thank you.

Image is on Ancestry. Father is James a sailor.
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 November 18 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Retirement notice for Captain James Dorward

10 April 1908 - Dundee Evening Telegraph - Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Heís going back to London where his children are.

Other articles about his seamanship of Captain Dorward but it seems there may be more than one!
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 November 18 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Found Kate and family in Walthamstow in 1911. james isnít with her.
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 November 18 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Solicitors notice re claims on his estate
Captain James Dorward , Tayport, latterly resided at Muirhead on Liff, Dundee
Dated 23 Nov 1917

27 November 1917 - Dundee Courier -

NB sorry if Iím duplicating anything, I keep getting a message to say someone else has posted while Iím writing, but when I check there are no new postings.


Added death reg

 DORWARD
JAMES
75
1917
301/ 82
Liff, Benvie and


And this must be him in 1911

DORWARD
JAMES
1911
M
69
429/ 3/ 14
Ferry Port On Craig
Fife
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 November 18 20:48 GMT (UK) »
To confuse things there is another James B Dorward death at Muirhead of Liff in 1917, that one is a Schoolmaster, son of a schoolmaster.
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 November 18 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Mckha, this is all quite amazing.  I have spent hours recently searching the Newspaper Archive, and failed to find what you have found.  I will digest this (over the next few days/weekend) and comment in full.

1881 is the dob of James Smith Dorward, his son.

1911, is James Dorward living in Scotland, or just there between ships?

James Dorward senior, b1842, was First Mate on on one of Captain Laird's vessels in, I think, 1875.  He must have met Ellen, born Lawson (Barbara's daughter) either before or after her marriage to John McLaren, before finally marrying him in 1890.

Captain Laird is the Great great grandfather of my Alice of Mart'n'Al.  Her family has a wonderful portrait of Captain Laird and he looks a truly imposing man.  I was a bit sad when I found out that he was only five feet five.  He sailed the world for almost 50 years, between 1835 and his retirement, including San Francisco, Rio, and many many visits to Cape Town, Rangoon, China, Australia, and the islands between the two last.

Thanks again for all your work.  After I've taken it all in, over the next few days, I'll ask what resources you used.  I must work on Ellen and 'Swanscombe'.

EDIT 22:54 I have found Ellen 'McLaren' (transcribed as 'Ellen M Lazen') and James at 37 Swanscombe Road, Chiswick, just three streets away from where she was a witness to Captain Laird's death in 1897, but she lists herself as widow, yet in 1911, she says she is 20 years married. 

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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 November 18 03:45 GMT (UK) »
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EDIT 22:54 I have found Ellen 'McLaren' (transcribed as 'Ellen M Lazen') and James at 37 Swanscombe Road, Chiswick, just three streets away from where she was a witness to Captain Laird's death in 1897, but she lists herself as widow, yet in 1911, she says she is 20 years married. 

Any comments?  From anyone?

I notice the 1911 is filled out and signed by James as Head of house. Perhaps he was just being pedantically correct.
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Re: Chiilin' with the kids and his foxy new bride....
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 November 18 04:09 GMT (UK) »
Meanwhile Martin (or anyone else with connections)...

Marriage?

MCLAREN JOHN
LAWSON ELLEN
1882
393/B 1 Stanley (Perth)

Births?

MCLAREN JAMES LAIRD 1883
387/ 311 Perth

MCLAREN BARBARA LAIRD 1884
387/ 401 Perth

Edit, to add;

Parents marriage...Edit...Can't be surely or was this a 2nd marriage or just a coincidence with surname & mothers' ms or a sibling or relative & maybe a skeleton in there  :-\  ???  ;D

LAWSON JOHN
GARDINER BARBARA
1882
387/ 6 Perth

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Add...What lead you to believe there may have been another marriage to a McCulloch or at least another son named Robert?
I can't find a marriage so far.
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