Author Topic: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?  (Read 465 times)

Offline Clarkey500

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
  • Flag of Somerset
    • View Profile
Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« on: Friday 09 November 18 13:38 GMT (UK) »
I have come across a Joseph Adams (SS/2849) of the army service corps who I think may be the individual I am researching (his death certificate is due any day now). However, on his medal roll index card and on the medal rolls themselves, it states he forfeited his medals due to NW/9/2016 - does anybody know what this means? He was discharged on the 12 July 1915 due to misconduct. Therefore, I imagine NW/9/2016 means some kind of misconduct, but other than that I am stumped!
Devon: Bibby, Bird, Chaplin, Davey, Littlejohns, Pope, Shire, Sloman, Tucker
Dorset: Gauler
Gloucestershire: Gauler
Hampshire: Kimber
London: Crump, Gauler
Middlesex: Crump
Monmouthshire: Brunt
Northumberland: Bibby
Somerset: Clarke, Dibble, Duddridge, Parsons, Pool, Poole, Shire, Silvester
Surrey: Clarke
Wiltshire: Gauler

GEDmatch (myself): A869547
GEDmatch (my maternal grandfather):A933749
GEDmatch (my maternal grandmother): NY7596565

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline MaxD

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,945
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 November 18 14:31 GMT (UK) »
NW/9/2016 would have been the authorative letter/note that recorded the act of forfeiture.  Without his service record we don't know what the misconduct actually was.  The charge of misconduct was much more serious that the word suggests including sleeping on duty on operations, using violence or disrespectful behaviour to a superior, misconduct through drink or drugs.   He would have received some sort of sentence and forfeiture was part of the result.

MaxD
Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,431
    • View Profile
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline MaxD

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,945
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 November 18 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Good spot ShaunJ.  Two periods of Field Punishment No 1, Field General Court Martial for drunkenness and striking a superior (6 months in prison). 

MaxD
Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

Offline Clarkey500

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
  • Flag of Somerset
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 November 18 16:53 GMT (UK) »
NW/9/2016 would have been the authorative letter/note that recorded the act of forfeiture.  Without his service record we don't know what the misconduct actually was.  The charge of misconduct was much more serious that the word suggests including sleeping on duty on operations, using violence or disrespectful behaviour to a superior, misconduct through drink or drugs.   He would have received some sort of sentence and forfeiture was part of the result.

MaxD

Thank you, Max and Shaun!

I should say the Joseph Adams I am looking for was kicked in the head by a mule in July 1915 which led to tetanus and depression. He died a month later. I'm hoping his death certificate will give more information about his service number etc. He is named on the parish war memorial, but doesn't seem to be on the CWGC database!


It appears he is not this Joseph Adams, but he seems to have a rather interesting story to tell and I can rule him off my possibilities list!
Devon: Bibby, Bird, Chaplin, Davey, Littlejohns, Pope, Shire, Sloman, Tucker
Dorset: Gauler
Gloucestershire: Gauler
Hampshire: Kimber
London: Crump, Gauler
Middlesex: Crump
Monmouthshire: Brunt
Northumberland: Bibby
Somerset: Clarke, Dibble, Duddridge, Parsons, Pool, Poole, Shire, Silvester
Surrey: Clarke
Wiltshire: Gauler

GEDmatch (myself): A869547
GEDmatch (my maternal grandfather):A933749
GEDmatch (my maternal grandmother): NY7596565

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,431
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 November 18 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Tell us about your Joseph Adams and we'll see if we can help - which memorial is he on? Do you know his regiment? Where and when was he born?
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Clarkey500

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
  • Flag of Somerset
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 November 18 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Tell us about your Joseph Adams and we'll see if we can help - which memorial is he on? Do you know his regiment? Where and when was he born?

He is named on the Creech St Michael War Memorial. His full name is Joseph Henry Adams and he was born in 1890 in the hamlet of Walford which is part of the Creech St Michael parish. He was a member of the Independent Equalised Order of Druids and they held his funeral. He died on the 17th August 1915. He appears to have been in the ASC, but may have been in the labour corps. He seemed to be stationed in England, meaning there might not be many (if any) records for him - other than his death certificate which I have ordered a PDF copy of.


Devon: Bibby, Bird, Chaplin, Davey, Littlejohns, Pope, Shire, Sloman, Tucker
Dorset: Gauler
Gloucestershire: Gauler
Hampshire: Kimber
London: Crump, Gauler
Middlesex: Crump
Monmouthshire: Brunt
Northumberland: Bibby
Somerset: Clarke, Dibble, Duddridge, Parsons, Pool, Poole, Shire, Silvester
Surrey: Clarke
Wiltshire: Gauler

GEDmatch (myself): A869547
GEDmatch (my maternal grandfather):A933749
GEDmatch (my maternal grandmother): NY7596565

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,431
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 November 18 17:25 GMT (UK) »
OK thanks. I found a report of his funeral in the Taunton Courier
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,431
    • View Profile
Re: Why did Joseph forfeit his medals?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 November 18 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Looks like he wasn't in the army after all:

UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk