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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 November 18 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, so which census returns do you have for the family post 1882?
That marriage certificate would supply the father of each of them, and any witnesses.
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 November 18 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi. Thanks for the reply. I have got enough details from the 1861 census to be able to fill in most of the gaps to the present day.
The problem I am having is getting back before 1861.
I think I have traced Joseph Hart's father using the marriage records at Eldersfield .
I think it was:
 James Hart born  around 1793
             (baptised 12th may 1793,Eldersfield)
I can't figure out the female name.
 He was the son of another James Hartwho married  Sarah Diar(widow)
also in Eldersfield on  3rd November 1791.
I can't see a baptism record for any siblings in Eldersfield.
Here is where I get stuck.
The marriage record states James was "of Chanceley"[/b]
A request on the Gloucester board pointed me to the church records from Chanceley but no Harts there that I can find so thats a dead end.
Presumably James was working in the Chanceley/Eldersfield area but where he was born is what cant find out at the moment.
Hackett, Mills, Hart, Dunn

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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 November 18 19:15 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi so you have the 1851 census of the Hart family in Eldersfield?
Census ref HO107/2043//348/18 and the marriage of Joseph/Mary.
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PS I presume you have the 1841 census with a Joseph Hart 20 and Mary Davies 20 are in the same household in Berrow
Census ref HO107/1199/ 4/10 / 13
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 November 18 19:29 GMT (UK) »
 so you have the 1851 census of the Hart family in Eldersfield?
Census ref HO107/2043//348/18 and the marriage of Joseph/Mary.
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Thank you,yes I do.
Hackett, Mills, Hart, Dunn


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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 November 18 19:30 GMT (UK) »
 :) And the marriage of Joseph to Mary.
If so can you give full details including witnesses.
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 November 18 19:48 GMT (UK) »
The information I have on the marriage is from Eldersfield parish register;
Joseph Hart, son of James Hart & Mary Davis, daughter of Thomas Davis 23rd Oct 1851
   

no witnesses given, just enough info to search deeper into the church records to find James Hart's baptism and his parents names.
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 November 18 20:23 GMT (UK) »
The information I have on the marriage is from Eldersfield parish register;
Joseph Hart, son of James Hart & Mary Davis, daughter of Thomas Davis 23rd Oct 1851
   

no witnesses given, just enough info to search deeper into the church records to find James Hart's baptism and his parents
Ignore wrong assumption made, you really need for all the information on the father's etc the Marriage registration Dec qtr 1851 Upton v18 page 751 for this couple?
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 18 November 18 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, so their would appear to be children born prior to the marriage in Oct 1851?

1851 census

Joseph Hart 29 occ Wheelwright & Machine maker b Pendock, Worcestershire
Mary 30
Joseph 8
Sarah Ann 4
Rocedo? 6
Fanny 1
Residing at Lawn Side, Old Taylors , Eldersfield
Census ref HO107/2043/348/18
All others born Berrow
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PS you really need that marriage certificate Dec qtr 1851 Upton for more clues?
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Re: Hart family lookup request in Eldersfield?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 November 18 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.
Yes I do need to find that marriage certificate.
I didnt have the 1841 census either which puts them in Berrow. 
Hackett, Mills, Hart, Dunn