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FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« on: Monday 12 November 18 20:36 GMT (UK) »
I have received my 3x great grandmothers asylum records and it states that she 'was a native of Felinfoel'. Her name was Mary Price nee Davies and she was born in 1838 according to info her daughter gave. Her parents died of old age and she had three brothers who died of heart disease. Her late husband was James Price a quarryman. But her children were born/baptised in Glamorgan, she probably married there too, and her last address was Aberkenfig in Glamorgan before she died in 1911 in Bridgend asylum. Felinfoel is quite far from Aberkenfig. The name is so common and her childrens death certs dont give anything away. Can I get further back?
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Have you found family on any census? what were children names, dates born etc.

When does it state admitted to institution & date of death..

All info may help..any other clues to family?

Hoping to help...

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 09:33 GMT (UK) »
No I can’t find anyone on the felinfoel census . Mary was under her married name Price when admitted to Bridgend asylum in 1904 but I have the records until the present day of her children, grandchildren etc. Trying to find her before marriage.
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Looking through census think have found family.  Mary is in Bridgend asylum in 1911. With son Daniel & wife in 1901.

First child is Ann/Annie born 1869 in Cowbridge? Then Henry b Penllyn

There is only one marriage for couple in area 1855 -1869 in Bridgend

Marriages Dec Q 1867   
DAVIES    Mary        Bridgend    11a   709   
Price    James        Bridgend    11a   709    

Marriage from familysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JV3J-B2R Gives her father as Morgan


Mary gives Wenvoe in 1881, Carmarthen 1891, all other pob Llanelly age consistent to birth around 1838, all clues can help narrow, Davies is very common and also could go as David/Davis.

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Yes thanks, as said in post I have Mary's asylum records, her death record in 1911 and her tree upto the present date. Its before marriage we cant find her. Im not sure she married in Bridgend as she was from Llanelly but Ive ordered the marriage cert, she may have married in Penllyn as she was there in 1870 and possibly before (its just north-west of Cowbridge where 1st child was born). Her daughter stated she was from Felinfoel on the asylum records.
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Do you have anything on James Price?  On the above marriage gives him a widow with father James

This bapt would fit with age & place on census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JS5H-SV4

Hopefully additional info from marriage may help determine if correct one.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Possible family 1841 if marriage details confirm.
HO107; Piece: 1379; Book: 9; Folio: 28; Page: 17. Llanelly, Carmarthen

Parish of Westva or Westfa  is just north east of Felinfoel http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/25760

Morgan Davies   25 Ag lab
Ann Davies   25
Mary Davies   2
Jane Davies   6 Months
Ann Davies   30, charwoman, age transcribed as 30 but looks 50 to me.

All b in county

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Same family 1851. Ann is a widow and pauper. Living Hengoed parish within of what looks like Felin Foel? Family are down as surname David.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZ7-HW4

HO107 Piece/Folio   2468 / 437 page 26
Anne David   Head   F   38   Llandybie, Carmarthenshire
Mary David   Daughter   12   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Jane David   Daughter   10   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Daniel David   Son   8   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Anne David   Daughter   6   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Morgan David   Son   M   3   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Sarah David   Daughter   1   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
David Griffith         0   nursing child, Llanelly

Possible death

Name:   Age at Death (in years):    
DAVID, MORGAN       age 34     
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 26  Page 574

1861 - Hengoed Carmarthenshire with additional children, still a widow, but may have a friend. Earlier born Daniel must have died.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7HL-RRJ
 
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: FELINFOEL, LLANELLY
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 15:52 GMT (UK) »
1871 - same family, no Mary
 Address   Felinfoel Hengoed, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V559-28S

Ann Davies   Head   F   64   Llandybie, Carmarthenshire
Morgan Davies   Son   M   23   Llandybie, Carmarthenshire
Margaret Davies   Daughter   F   18   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Daniel Davies   Son   M   14   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
Morgan Howells   Grandson   M   9   Llanelly, Carmarthenshire

1881 same place
RG 11 Piece:   5375 Folio: 100 Page Number: 24
Street address:   13 Union Row, Llanelly
Ann Davies   70, Llandybie
Morgan Davies   32, Llanelly, invalid, no occ
Margaret Davies   28, dau, Llanelly
Daniel Davies   23 son, Llanelly
Morgan Davies   19, Grandson, Llanelly
David Evans   9, Granson, b Swansea

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland