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So now i will show you the link back from the ryme about the black tinkler to the black douglas that was found but the author did not see the connection as i do for all the later writers that i found were not yet born when this next book was wrote, then i will show you how a further link back was found to evan a later time of Richard the first.... Walter Scott will come into that account in the end posts so all will become clear only at the end, try and read all the old books and new books plus articles i have found there is a great wealth of knowledge in them
David MacRitchie 1851-1925
ANCIENT
AND
MODERN BRITONS:
A RETROSPECT.
VOL. I.
LONDON:
KEGAN PAUL, TRENCH & CO., 1 PATERNOSTER SQUARE.
1884.
Page 216-217
………. Sir Walter Scott seems also to regard " the good Sir James " as The Black Douglas, whereas we know that no fewer than four of the Douglas earls bore that title, while their very clan name, strictly considered, signifies " the black man." That " a Black Douglas " must at one time have been a term interchangeable with " a black man " or " a gipsy," is indicated also by the rhyme which Scott places in the mouth of the soldier's wife at Roxburgh castle-—
" Hush ye, hush ye, little pet ye,
Hush ye, hush ye, do not fret ye,
The Black Douglas shall not get ye."
This very rhyme is said by Simson to be sung by mothers to their fretful children, at the present day, with this significant variation, that the last line runs— " The black Tinkler winna get ye." Therefore, for this reason also, a " Black Douglas " was only a synonym for a " Moor." And when one or other of the chiefs of this race was styled " The Black Douglas," the article so prefixed was employed exactly as it is yet done in Ireland and in Scotland, to distinguish the head of the clan from the rest of his clansmen, all of whom bear the same tribal name.
The Black-Douglases of history were thus the ancestors of certain families of modern gipsies ; the name of Douglas being, in one of its phases, an equivalent of Tinkler.*
* It is noteworthy, in this connection, that the Tinklers are referred to "in a charter of William the Lion (1165-1214)." (" Encyc. Brit." 9th edit art. “Gipsies.")
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In all the older references to the race, they are spoken of as purely black, not tawny. It is said that Scottish peasant mothers soothe their children with the couplet—
" Hush nae, hush nae, dinna fret ye ;
The black Tinkler winna get ye "
* Simson's " History," p. 45. This recalls Sir Walter Scott's account of the taking of Roxburgh Castle, and the song of the Englishwoman to her baby—
" Hush ye, hush ye, little pet ye,
Hush ye, hush ye, do not fret ye,
The Black Douglas shall not get ye." And, like the Tinkler, Douglas was himself a black man.
I found this information below contained in a book of poem winners in the year 1840, this now connects the black Douglas ryme of frightening children to the Arab mothers frightening their children.
John Charles conybeare obtained the chancellors medal
at Cambridge university st peters colledge in 1840
for the poem
"Richard the first in palestine"
extract
No more the Arab warrior chides his steed,
“Is Richard there, why start from yonder reed?”
Nor Eastern mothers to their infants sing Of Richard,
England's lion-hearted king.
Yet deem not buried in oblivion's gloom,
Idly he sleeps forgotten in the tomb.
This below are the notes written at the end of this poem in the stated book.
"so great the terror which richard inspired, that for many years it was customary among arabs to reprove their horses thus; and their women used to frighten their children with his name. In the time of Bruce, the name Douglas was put to similar use. The following is still preserved".
" Hush ye, hush ye, litle pet ye, hush ye,
hush ye, do not fret ye,
the black douglas shall not get ye,"
next i will link Scott to the above, Scott had a extensive collection of books including the times of the crusades, it is wrote it was an Arab writer who first used the words to frighten children, Scott seems to favour the liberal thought of certain writers of the past and had connections to familys like the ones from Roslin that place of high intrige, i think way back at the times of the Crusades this story started, Scott in his mind was thinking about the origin of many things, and to weaving his majik into the narative, no one will ever find Scott, everyone will see through their own eyes, i am just trying to show how if a writer like Simson makes certain comments and you start to think on them, then also i think a person should think on all his words, the same also should be thought of my words
to be continued.............