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Ethel Soph Bishop
« on: Wednesday 14 November 18 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Ethel Sophia born 21st October 1886 in Nottingham,parents Walter Bishop on wedding certificate he aged 24 but am not convinced that right,I have him born 1855 in Exeter Stoke Cannon, her Mother Mary Ann Cunningham on wedding certificate she aged 20 they living in Nottingham donít have any other info on her other than her dad was William Cunningham and a Joiner deceased in 1885.
1891 @ 1901 census Walter only with daughter Ethel lodging with different families no wife,would like info on Mary Cunningham also her parents.
Walterís Dad was William Bishop and a Blacksmith, canít find any earlier census .

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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Your question isn't all that easy to understand!  But I think it boils down to your wanting help in tracing Ethel's parents.

I see that Walter is 29 b Exeter in the 1891 census - occupation "sanitary works": RG12/2687/10/13.

He's "married" in 1891, and "widowed" by 1901 - W Bishop, 41 b Exeter: RG13/3184/175/4 (& probably a boarder, rather than "brother" as indexed on Anc).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:05 GMT (UK) »
I am confused too  :)
Starting with Ethels birth

BISHOP, ETHEL  SOPHIA  mmn CUNNINGHAM     
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 290

Parents marriage
Marriages Mar qtr 1885 
Bishop    Walter       
Cunningham    Mary Ann       
Nottingham    7b   23
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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:15 GMT (UK) »
So the new information since your previous thread is that you now have the marriage certificate showing Mary Ann as 20 at marriage in 1885, daughter of William Cunningham (deceased), a joiner.  You already know from your 1911 finding that (as in 1891) Walter still claims to be married, so there's no reason to think Mary Ann had died by then other than the 1901 census when he claims to be widowed.

Walter Bishop is 24 at marriage, son of William Bishop, blacksmith - and you say you already have an 1855 birth for him in Devon.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Would like to find out why Mary Ann not on 1891 and 1901 census also anything about her parents.

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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to the 1885 marriage?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Soph Bishop
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Witnesses were John @Hannah Housley