Stuck and need some inspiration please. Cold trail Bermondsey 1881

[osprey]

baptisms to same parents

Eleanor born 22 Dec 1818 bp 2 May 1819, same place as Mary Ann, Our Lady of the Assumption & St Gregory

Joseph born 22 Dec 1813, bp 17 July 1814 St Anselm & St Cecilia, Lincoln's Inn Fields 

[osprey]

Possible?

RC baptism in Bavarian Chapel, Warwick Street, Soho in 19 March 1815 for Mary Ann Aguirra daughter of Joseph & Ann Lilly. Mary Ann was born 18 Dec 1814.

sorry, just realised this Mary Ann is a few years older than the one who married John Weatherby.

 

[Fredsboy]

Thank you all for your help. Apologies if I haven't replied quick enough, there is a lot to take in, but I shall get around to responding to everyone.

Meanwhile, all further advice gratefully accepted

Paul

[keyboard86]

Hi again, ( a ) did you locate the 1851 census given, and ( b ) the baptisms of the children of Nicholas, are on FindMyPast,  in 1861 he is with what could be Eleanor Margaret Boakes shown as Weatherby.
He married 7th July 1804 Tynemouth an Isabella Sopwith, Grooms parish Gateshead, St Mary.
Nicholas Weatherby was buried 15th January 1862 Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery of Wooton Street, Lambeth aged 93
Keyboard86

[Fredsboy]

Census ref HO107/1569/347/39"

I don't know how to search against Census ref (help talks about "old Searches" on Ancestry - maybe I don't have right package - but usual searches are not finding this for me

Select "Search", then "Census & Electoral Rolls".
From the list on the right-hand side, select 1851 U.K. Census Collection.
From the resulting screen, scroll down and select "1851 England Census".

Scroll down and enter:
Folio (347)
Page Number (39)
Piece (1569)

A Census Reference is always shown as:
Class (HO107 for 1841 and 1851, RG09 for 1861, RG10 for 1871, etc)
Piece
Folio
Page

Within the Class reference "HO" refers to Home Office papers and "RG" refers to Registrar General papers, all TNA references

Yhx keyboard86 - i used both the surname and then practiced the Registry numbering method - success. Great tip thank you

[Fredsboy]

Hi again, ( a ) did you locate the 1851 census given, and ( b ) the baptisms of the children of Nicholas, are on FindMyPast,  in 1861 he is with what could be Eleanor Margaret Boakes shown as Weatherby.
He married 7th July 1804 Tynemouth an Isabella Sopwith, Grooms parish Gateshead, St Mary.
Nicholas Weatherby was buried 15th January 1862 Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery of Wooton Street, Lambeth aged 93
Keyboard86

Thanks again Keyboard86 - I am learning loads from you :-)
(a) located thx
(b) working on baptisms but I am confident that Eleanor (41 widow) is the daughter of Nicholas (97 widower) and probably the widow of Laurence Boakes. I have massive wallpaper with a million postits as I try and cross reference all these.
P 

[keyboard86]

  As you can now find your way around a census ref on Ancestry, possible  John BOOKES 42 Occ Shopkeeper ( General ) b Sevenoaks, Kent and Eleanor 33 b Northumberland are in Eaton Street, Lambeth.
Census ref HO107/Piece number 1569 Folio 343 Page 32
Keyboard86

PS this is FindMyPast Transcription.

[Fredsboy]

As you can now find your way around a census ref on Ancestry, possible  John BOOKES 42 Occ Shopkeeper ( General ) b Sevenoaks, Kent and Eleanor 33 b Northumberland are in Eaton Street, Lambeth.
Census ref HO107/Piece number 1569 Folio 343 Page 32
Keyboard86

PS this is FindMyPast Transcription.

Thx Got him. In Ancestry it is recorded as Boakes, I also have them both in Dukes Rd in 1841 (married) although I have their marriage now in 1842 (both of Dukes Road). Sort of getting the hang of this.

[Fredsboy]

Possible?

RC baptism in Bavarian Chapel, Warwick Street, Soho in 19 March 1815 for Mary Ann Aguirra daughter of Joseph & Ann Lilly. Mary Ann was born 18 Dec 1814.

sorry, just realised this Mary Ann is a few years older than the one who married John Weatherby.

 

Thx Osprey

How did you find this record please - I'm still learning.
Thx
P