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Hosies land Govanhill
« on: Wednesday 14 November 18 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Theres a document I found about my great x 2 gran Catherine Gillespie saying she lived at Hosies Land Govanhill in the 1880s- does anyone know where that was and what it was?
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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 November 18 22:13 GMT (UK) »
There is a reference to Hosies Land, Bellisle Street, Gorbals in the 1881 census.

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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 November 18 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica, thanks for this.  I was pointed to a wiki site that mentioned it under the name of the Fireworks Village- [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireworks_Village?fbclid=IwAR0p-qCEn1iHyic2QlmBPsdppKm43uu2pP2sgEFfdrDkZfPMVwqE5xSov-A]
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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 November 18 22:21 GMT (UK) »
It was almost certainly a tenement owned at some point by someone named Hose.

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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 November 18 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Imber, going by the description in the wiki page I wondered if it was a row of houses?
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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 January 19 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Imber, going by the description in the wiki page I wondered if it was a row of houses?
Hosie's Land was a  Miners Row  (according to Villages of Glasgow by Aileen Smart) - it was situated in Fireworks Village (a local name as most maps of the period refer to the area as Little Govan) which was basically built on both sides of modern day Cathcart Road - roughly between Calder Street and Allison Street.

Hosie's Land and Garden Square were on the west of Cathcart Road with School Square just a little north of them.(Bankhall Street named after the main house which stood there runs through the centre of what was Fireworks Village) - Belleisle Street mentioned above is pretty close to where it would have been. (although a "Land" is generally accepted as an old Scots word for a multi storey building there are numerous examples where this was not the case and whatever buildings were on a particular location were referred to either by the builders details or the landowners)

Go to https://maps.nls.uk/view/74400937  and at the bottom of the map which is from 1832 ,   if you zoom in you will see marked "Houses of Firework" towards the right hand side,

If you have a read of http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/Indexes/housing.html  although it is from 1912 it will give you an insight into the "quality" of housing supplied to the workers.

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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 January 19 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for this Falkyrn, Fireworks village seems to have been largely forgotten
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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 January 19 17:38 GMT (UK) »
It is really odd that in more recent times one of my uncles lived in Belleisle st for many years with no knowledge of any of this history.
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Re: Hosies land Govanhill
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 January 19 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for this Falkyrn, Fireworks village seems to have been largely forgotten

I never knew anything of it until I discovered that one of my direct line was born there