Author Topic: Birth help please BURCH, Agnes Maud 1 Feb 1887  (Read 1716 times)

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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 November 18 03:12 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry Anglican Parish records Sydney

At St Michaels Church Surry Hills  7 Nov 1874
BURCH Joseph William, bachelor, 26 years, res. Sydney, born England, mariner
Father John BURCH, printer    Mother Elizabeth PARS***

TANSLEY Maria Mitchell, spinster, 23 years, res. Sydney,born England 
Father Thomas TANSLEY, farmer  Mother Frances HAW(LOCK?)
Witness  Charles THOMPSON, Sarah SMITH

At St Michaels Church Surry Hills  25 Jan 1878
WEARE Robert, bachelor, born England, mariner, 25 years, res. Redfern Sydney
Father WEARE Joseph, engineer  Mother Eliza (KING)

TANSLEY Alice Ann, spinster, born Ireland, res. Redfern Sydney
Father TANSLEY Thomas, coast Guard   Mother  Frances  HORLOCK (?)
Witnesses Joseph William BURCH, Maria BURCH


FreeBDM  JunQ  1838  Dartford  Vol 5 pg 125
HORLOCK Frances  m.  TANSLEY Thomas

FreeBDM JunQ 1857   Leicester Vol 3a pg 302
TANSLEY Thomas   m. Mary Ann MITCHELL



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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 November 18 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Alice arrived after her sister:

TANSLEY Alice A 20 Nineveh 1876    Sydney Reel 2140, [4/4800] Page 56; Reel 2487, [4/5001]

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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 November 18 04:47 GMT (UK) »
I think I may have found her.  ;D

I used the birth date you gave with B* and Agnes:

33596/1887 BIRCH Agnes WILLIAM and MARIA BUNGENDORE

Bungendore is just up from Queanbeyan, where John's birth was registered.

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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:00 GMT (UK) »
Really appreciate your efforts Jamjar

Here's what I have on the siblings

Maria Mitchell Tansley b.9Dec1851 IRE  d.30Jun1943 Katoomba AUS

(dau of Thomas Tansley 1815-19Oct1906 IRE  who married 7May 1838 Swanscombe Kent  Frances Horlock 1818-1877AUS)

married 1874 NSW AUSTRALIA Joseph William BURCH b.1848 ENG d.1Jun1918 AUS

Maria and her mother Frances Emigrated to Australia 1874 on SS "Canning" BMD records mothers name as 'Florence' (sic)

Issue of Maria and Joseph BURCH :-
Frances Maria 1875-1948 NZ married 1899 NZ Frederick Albert Osmond
Alice Annie 1877-7Jul1943 AUS married 1904 AUS  William Rees
Arthur 1880-1917 FRANCE  married Ethel Jane Dumbrell
Susan 1882-
Joseph William 1884-1953 AUS married 1909 AUS Alice M Pickles
Agnes Maud 1Jan1887-14Apr1961 NZ  married 1909 NZ  Karl Marten STRAND
John 1889-9May1957 AUS
Thomas 1891-1891 AUS
Florence May 1892-1965 AUS  married 1911 AUS  Ernest Vincent Ottey
Robert Henry 1898-    married 1939 AUS  Marie Madeline Gow


Agnes Maud came to New Zealand (I guess to be with her sister Frances Maria as she married in NZ 1899)  around 1909 when she met and married Karl Marten Strand (Norwegian immigrant)   You can guess by my surname its a relative by marriage  ;D
Yet still hoping to find confirmation of her birth 1887 NSW    ???

Thanks muchly jamjar
Bassano: (ALL areas)
Drake: London, Essex, Kent
Hawkins: Shoreditch, Hackney, Essex
Meaney: Co Cork - London
Morrison: Scotland-Canada-New Zealand


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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:03 GMT (UK) »
ahhhhh  8)

so the error in the spelling of 'BURCH'  to  'BIRCH' is what has thrown us?
Oh my my

33596/1887 BIRCH Agnes WILLIAM and MARIA BUNGENDORE

BY GEORGE YOU'VE GOT IT!!!

 :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Birth help please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:20 GMT (UK) »
I’ve been looking at the digital image of the Canning and I cannot see Maria’s mother. Her name does not show in ‘Key Name Search’, either.

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/keyname

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4799/Canning_8%20Jan%201872/4_479900064.jpg&No=1

Where do you have the mother’s death?

If that is Arthur’s military record that I linked to, then his wife was Elizabeth, not Ethel.

So, Susan is in hiding somewhere.  ;)

You’ve left off Thomas Walter born 1895, died 1949.

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:29 GMT (UK) »
Just to add, the reason I think it’s the correct military record is that it has a Watson’s Bay address written in red and then crossed out. His father’s death notice in 1918 states he is of Watson’s Bay. The surname wasn’t that common so I doubt it’s a coincidence.

He was married at Manly, as was his brother Robert.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:40 GMT (UK) »
The Arthur Burch, who married Ethel, died 1943:

2762/1943 BURCH ARTHUR parents JOHN and MARY ANN HORNSBY

Funeral notice, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17840409

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 November 18 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Using the marriage found by Wivenhoe, Maria’s sister died young:

2558/1888 WEARE Alice A parents THOMAS and FRANCES LEICHHARDT

In Memoriam, 1st column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article235867603

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