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Hill/Owen Ontario
« on: Friday 16 November 18 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Myself and a fellow researcher have been trying to prove/disprove the following but as we both live in England, require help from Canada!

Charles William Hill born 18th Nov 1883 Birmingham married Hannah Owen born 1890 Haslingden Lancashire on 25th Dec 1908 in York Ontario.  Two years later they were witnesses at the marriage of one of Hannah's sisters. No record has been found of them on the 1911 or 1921 census.

 We are certain Charles William served in the 122nd Oversea Batallion as the father, birth place (although the year is incorrect) and  addresses of his father are correct (checked with the electoral register), however the demob papers state he is single (not widowed) and give his death as 28th Feb 1966 at Westminster Hospital, London Ontario.  I found a burial at Woodland cemetery

HILL, Charles William   Woodland, London (Section A,AEN,AES,L,VA,VAA,VB,Y)   Middlesex   London   MX-LC-152-1

which maybe be the same Charles William

So we need the age at death/obitory of the 1966 Charles William and to discover if the Woodland burial is the same Charles William.  If it is 'our' Charles William then what became of Hannah 1910-1916?  I can find no death on Ancestry

Any help appreciated!

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:24 GMT (UK) »

Charles William Hill born 18th Nov 1883 Birmingham married Hannah Owen born 1890 Haslingden Lancashire on 25th Dec 1908 in York Ontario.  Two years later they were witnesses at the marriage of one of Hannah's sisters. No record has been found of them on the 1911 or 1921 census.



Where and when did this wedding take place
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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Owen married   Joseph Pointon on 3rd September 1910 in Toronto York, Ontario

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
1916 census 6, 7, W1, Thompson Macdonald Manitoba

Charls Hill   30 born England. Farmer.
Hannah Hill 26 born England.
Charls Hill   2 born Manitoba.

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21927/jpg/31228_4363956-00234.jpg

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Added :- This couple are Charles William Hill and Hannah Bowers married 1913 Stone Staffordshire - 6b 71
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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:32 GMT (UK) »

1921 Macdonald Manitoba

Charles Hill   34 Born England.
Hannah Hill   32 Born England.
Charles Hill   6 Born Manitoba.
Allice Mary Hill   2 born Manitoba.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002881765

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:38 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a Charles William Hill in Carman Manitoba. Charles born 1914 passed away 2008
which might be a possible for the son.

Canadian Headstone - file 404 did not open - Charles W. Hill
Cemetery:   Miami+
Burial Place Thompson, Manitoba, Canada
Notes - HILL Charles W. July 31, 1914 Feb. 21, 2008 I. B. Mary July 2, 1915 Jan. 8, 1988 Ever Remembered, Ever Loved

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Owen married   Joseph Pointon on 3rd September 1910 in Toronto York, Ontario

1911 census Toronto West Ontario

George Painton   39
Amalia Painton   38
Cora Painton   15
Joseph Painton   34 born Eng.
Sarah Painton   25 born Eng.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002031239.jpg

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the above, we did think this was the family but my fellow researcher proved it was the wrong family, marriage year shows 1910 - our Charles was born 18th Nov 1883 and Hannah in 1890.  Also this doesn't match with the Charles William Hill WW1 papers which we are 90% certain is our Charles due to the DOB, place of birth, father and the address of his father Charles Edward

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Re: Hill/Owen Ontario
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 November 18 11:58 GMT (UK) »

Perhaps e-mail or write to the cemetery to see if you can find any further details  ???

Dates are not always accurate on census, some we have to take with a pinch of salt.

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