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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #18 on: Monday 19 November 18 08:36 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a Richard Cash aged 62 in Ruabon in 1847.

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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 November 18 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Just to say that I have now discovered that I have a DNA link (at 4th-5th cousin level) to someone who has John Cash and Ann Griffiths in their tree, through daughter Emma.

From my previous posts, I've discounted this line as the same as my line (I'm descended from Edward and Ann- their son Thomas, b. 1791, Chirk was my 4x great uncle). I'm wondering if there might be a link between my Cash line and the Richard (shoemaker) line - maybe via Edward Cash and Richard.

James - does your partner have any living relatives in Ruabon?


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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #20 on: Monday 19 November 18 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Alternatively, it could be spurious and I'm connected via another line but I don't see one as yet.



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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 November 18 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Annette

It seems that we looked at the same information (see my previous summary of the line- Reply #10 and thereabouts). However, you say:

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don't think the Richard Cash, shoemaker bc.1776 on 1841 census is the one who was married to Lucy - possibly - like his mother - John's father was already dead   - a Richard Cash was buried 21/1/1834 Duddleston but unfortunately no age is given on the transcript.

It's seems an odd statement to make. How do you know it wasn't him?


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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 November 18 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Going through my very old notes on the Cash family:

1790 Edward Cash married Anne Frances Chirk
Children of Edward and Ann: (variously Brinkynallt, Halton, Black Park)
1790 - Thomas - married Martha Thomas 1813  - died 1844, aged 53
1792 - Mary - married Thomas Hartshorn (shoemaker) 1816
1793 - Richard  - married Lucy Pritchard (Ruabon) 1815 (Lucy/Louisa d 1832)
1795 - Margaret no death record
1797 - John- died 1817, aged 20
1798 - Jane - married Edward Jones 1821
1802 - Margaret - married David Jones 1826

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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #23 on: Monday 19 November 18 12:43 GMT (UK) »
No idea of any living relatives around Ruabon.  All I know of my husband's grandfather (John Thomas Cash b.1896 d.1965) was that he was a coal miner at Llay Main Colliery, living in Llay.

When I originally did my tree back in 2008 I chose the line of J.T. Cash through Thomas Cash (and Sarah Windsor), to John Cash and (Ann Griffiths) then Thomas Cash (and Elizabeth Jones). I recently took out a Findmypast subscription to see I could add a little more to my records. It was only when I struggled to find John and Ann in 1851 and 1861 and found John & Mary that I questioned my original findings. Your comments suggest I swap Thomas (and Elizabeth Jones) for Richard (and possibly? Lucy Pritchard).

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Andrea (JamesDMcBust was my dog!)

Annette's comment about me discounting the line of Richard Cash shoemaker is a fair one.

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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #24 on: Monday 19 November 18 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Given that John was born Chirk and his father is given as Richard Cash, Shoemaker on his marriage cert and one of the witnesses was James Cash, it would seem that Richard and Lucy are the most likely parents.  The main problem seems to be the lack of a baptism. 

However, I have found that there were cases of baptisms going unrecorded in the parish records (as in other parishes. This can be explained by the fact that the vicar used to go around the largely rural community baptising babies in their homes and writing the facts down as he went or when he returned to his home.

My grandmother,  in my avatar,  was a descendant of this family.  That is why I am particularly interested in this thread.   :)
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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #25 on: Monday 19 November 18 14:27 GMT (UK) »
There is an interesting baptism as follows;-


John Cash,1825,Chirk,to John(shoemaker) and Lucy of Pont y Blew


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Re: John Thomas CASH, b. 1897 Broughton
« Reply #26 on: Monday 19 November 18 14:37 GMT (UK) »
There is an interesting baptism as follows;-


John Cash,1825,Chirk,to John(shoemaker) and Lucy of Pont y Blew


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Looks as if they got the father's name wrong, Roger.  Good find.  I knew there was something about the vicar getting his notes mixed up - can't remember when I heard about it!

 Think that solves the problem  :D

Pont y blew = Forge (my Parrys were from there)

So it looks as if Andrea's husband is a distant cousin of mine  ;D ;D ;D
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