Thank you everyone for your comments.
I've probably made it harder for himself putting out so much detailed information. Still not sure I understand it fully.
Happy that I have right marriage for John Thomas and have him identified in correct 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses.
1881 and 1871 John and Ann - seems right children and location.
I agree that the 1871 John Cash (with Anne) and the 1861 John Cash (with Mary) is not the same person.
I used to think the line went through Ann Griffiths but the occupation of Richard Cash, the father of John Cash (marriage to Ann Griffiths in Holt in 1846) was a shoemaker, and that doesn't feel right.
All of John Thomas Cash ancestors up to this point had been miners/labourers in a mining area.
If I discount the shoemaker family as my Cash ancestors, should I be following the line of John Cash marrying Mary Rogers? If so, are my John Cash's parents Thomas Cash and Elizabeth Jones (marriage 1818)?
Hoping to get this family on my tree soon
Your Thomas Cash born 1848 was clearly the son of John Cash and wife Ann - he and all his siblings births on GRO's birth index clearly show their mother maiden name was Griffiths i.e. his parents are the John Cash and Ann Griffiths married 1846 Holt.
This marriage entry clearly states that John Cash's father was a Richard Cash, shoemaker - how can you say 'it doesn't feel right' and that you'll discount the shoemaker family as your Cash ancestors and should you be following the line of John Cash and Mary Rogers?? I can't understand your reasoning - your Thomas b.1848 was the son of John and Ann, his mmn was Griffiths so why would you follow the line of another John married to a Mary Rogers?
I've found a Richard Cash, shoemaker married to a Lucy Pritchard 25/1/1815 Ruabon, Denbighshire.
I would imagine he was a journeyman shoemaker moving around as their children seem to be:
Emily bp.21/12/1815 Ellesmere & chapelry of Duddleston, Shropshire
Emily bp.18/8/1816 Chirk, Denbighshire (can't see burial for 1st Emily so perhaps she was baptised twice)
Elizabeth bp.16/1/1820 Worthenbury, Flintshire
James bp.12/1/1823 Chirk, Denbighshire
Eliza bp.8/2/1829 St Martins, Shropshire
Louisa Cash 35 (bc.1797), bur.3/6/1832 Chirk, wife of Richd. Cash (suspect this is Lucy)
I don't think the Richard Cash, shoemaker bc.1776 on 1841 census is the one who was married to Lucy - possibly - like his mother - John's father was already dead - a Richard Cash was buried 21/1/1834 Duddleston but unfortunately no age is given on the transcript.
When John Cash married Ann Griffiths 1846 one of the witnesses was a James Cash - I think this was his brother. bp'd 1823 Chirk (as shown above). Like Gadget, I cannot find a baptism for John himself.
John's father clearly a Richard Cash, shoemaker as stated on his marriage certificate to Ann Griffiths and the birth of son Thomas (1848) and his siblings confirm their mother's mmn was Griffiths. Think both of John's parents were dead before 1841 and no doubt this is how John himself ended up in the predominant occupation of the area i.e. coal miner.
Annette