john roberts-twysog 1886/7

[jonw65]

Margaret from 1939 could be
Birth, June 1921 West Derby 8b 570
Roberts, Margaret   
mother Norman   

Marriage, Sep 1948, Liverpool
Louis G Praet + Margaret Roberts

She may have died in 1966, Liverpool. Margaret Praet, age 45.

[bermuda blaster]

thanks everyone .was surprised john roberts born in Liverpool.Margaret Roberts is correct she was my mother born 1921.Have never seen marriage cert for john roberts junior.Only seen wedding photo which long lost uncle written names of Hannah and  Fred roberts on back. jonw65 is correct louis is my father. grandmothers maiden name was Norman florence elsie born 1891 liverpool.

[bermuda blaster]

Margaret Roberts did die in 1966-sorry having trouble keeping up with all this info 

[louisa maud]

1939 does have John and Florence Elsie together, that won't show you where he was born, does give date of birth though

Louisa Maud

[Gibel]

Armed with the date of birth I’d contact either the GRO or St Asaph Register office requesting the birth certificate if John Roberts on that date.

There is a 1901 census entry that could be him giving a place if birth as Henllan Denbighshire.

[Gibel]

The same family in 1891 with John giving a place of birth as Henllan. Father a John is a gamekeeper on both census. Does that ring any bells.

I’d definitely go for the birth certificate now you have a birth date.

[jonw65]

Have found him 1911 census as visitor 22 wellbrow road walton.

Just had a look, yes with the Norman family!
His residence on the marriage looks like 30 Friargate Preston

[bermuda blaster]

wow.Norman family is correct.have to leave to digest and log all this info !!!Incredible have become addicted.

[louisa maud]

That is how we all become addicted

I have looked at he 1891 census  that Gibel gave, picked out a couple of names to check mothers maiden name
Hannah, circa 1883, found earlier MMN Rowlands
John circa 1886 MMN Rowlands
Catherine circa 1890 MMN Rowlands

checking the rest

Louisa Maud