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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 12:39 GMT (UK) »
This is interesting
1881 ref  RG11/5574 FOLIO 9 PAGE 13

I picked out Elias as I thought it might be more unusual
Mother Mary father Robert  plus Elias aged 1 and Richard aged 2

What do you think Gibel

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 12:53 GMT (UK) »
1901, ref RG13/5233 FOLIO 16 PAGE 7
This might now clarify the relationships between siblings

John Robert 50
Mary 48
Richard C 22
Elias 21
John 14
Kate (9Catherine on 1891)
Frederick 6
Elizabeth J 4

No Hannah but we now know about Frederick

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Not sure that John + Mary will be found together on 1911 census night
Free index has a possibility for a married John Roberts, 60, born Bodfari, with daughter Lizzie J, 14, who was born Llandynog Denbighshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JK-QN5

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Maybe
Sep 1896 Ruthin 11b 297
Roberts, Elia Jane
mother Rowlands

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Problem I am finding is there re quite a few birth wit MMN Rowlands

Elizabeth J on 1901 aged 4 might be Lizzie J

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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 13:10 GMT (UK) »
Well, this could be her school record
Llandyrnog National School
admitted 10.4.1900
Roberts, Elizabeth Jane
address Penllwyn
parent/guardian John Roberts
date of birth 13.9.96

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 13:17 GMT (UK) »
This is odd
A triple admission at Llandyrnog National School, 23 July 1894
parent/guardian J Roberts
address Penllwyn

Hannah Mary Roberts, born 2.10.82
Tommy Roberts, born 13.8.84
John Roberts, born 16.7.86

Names match, John's birth date not in August!

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps dad got a bit confused

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: john roberts-twysog 1886/7
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 14:30 GMT (UK) »
They are not the most reliable source for dates of birth, usually right but not always.
Everything else seems to fit nicely!
John