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Eugenie Bruce-green
« on: Monday 19 November 18 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Eugenie Bruce-green, b 1921 is on a register along with Minnie Mansell and others. Could anyone please assist with details.
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 November 18 23:25 GMT (UK) »
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Eugenie Bruce-green, b 1921 is on a register

What register?
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 November 18 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if I can say, but 193?
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 November 18 23:49 GMT (UK) »
If you have seen it, you can mention it. :)

The transcription on Ancestry is very poor and difficult search. FindMyPast might be different.

Eugenia appears several times in Electorall registers.
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 00:02 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 register indexed as Bauce Green and Minnie Munsell

Probably lodgings as none of the other names seem to have any relation to each other
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 00:23 GMT (UK) »
It does seem strange that she is shown as Bruce-green becouse she did not marry Norman Bruce-green until 1942 in Newcastle. She was a Mansell and I believe Minnie was her mother, (maiden name Cohen?) I now see there seems to be a Silvan Mansell, b, 1907 on the 1939 with her.
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 00:49 GMT (UK) »
The register was updated with changes of surname etc. up to 1991.

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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 01:01 GMT (UK) »
OK thank you, understand now.
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Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 November 18 01:05 GMT (UK) »
I suspect Silvan (b 19 Dec 1907, d Mar qtr 1970 Worthing) started life as Silvan Mandel in East London, son of Albert Isaac Mandel & Minnie - birth reg Mar qtr 1908 St George East, mother’s maiden name Cohen.

Both parents appear to have been born in Romania, as was their eldest child - suggesting they probably also married there.

Perhaps in due course the family’s surname Mandel was changed to Mansell in order to assimilate?
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